I get most of my food from the grocery store, so it would not be good if that happened. I'd go as far to say that this happening would not be good for anyone, actually.
total collapse is a fantasy. nothing will totally collapse overnight but prices will probably increase and life will become more precarious for most workers.
And not to mention, even within the US, different places might experience collapse very differently. This is what happened with Rome - a place like Britain was wrecked when the legions withdrew, but like modern day Algeria and Tunisia might have been a little better off by not having to ship a bunch of their grain to Rome every year.
But overall, yeah, bad times all around.
yep. folks living in formerly industrialized communities in the south and midwest in the US have experienced this 'collapse' over the course of the past 5 decades. it has been a long process. you could even argue they never had the material benefits of empire that the upper class folks in major cities in the US have had.
Climate change could alter that I think. All depends on what it looks like
Total, immediate, ubiquitous collapse is a fantasy but total collapse in and of itself has already happened to millions of people in the USA and vast swaths of its area. At the very bottom of the American hierarchy the end has already come and that population grows by the day
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Yes, but later. It will be a slow collapse, likely spanning a decade.
As for worrying, I wouldn't worry about the stores not having food for another year or two at the very least, likely 5. But we should ALL be beginning to learn about growing, storing, and managing food/water/resources on the community level. That is going to be life and death for many people if the US is indeed set on plunging itself into its own quasi dark age.
But we should ALL be beginning to learn about growing, storing, and managing food/water/resources on the community level.
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I've never planted anything in my life (not counting kindergarten) And I wouldn't even begin to know how to start any sense of community in a state where it's still illegal to buy alcohol on Sundays
Fungiculture is easy, can be done indoors, and gives you a healthy luxury product that replaces meat. Being able to trade that is one of the things I'm banking on.
It's some good shit. A cannabis grow tent or even just a humidity cover over a shelving unit is enough to provide the right conditions for them and have enough for at least family consumption with some surplus. I'd like to reach the scale where I can support a mutual aid thing like the Black Panther breakfasts.
Eh sell, but with even one or two colonies you have so many for such minuscule investment that I just give them away. It's like 10 cents to me and a potentially profound experience to them which I know they're getting from a safe source rather than someone cutting corners to extract more profit.
It's good for building social capital. With psilocybin you've got a thing that really helps some people and gives others a really good day. You can show genuine concern for someone's problems and intervene in a more meaningful way than the platitudes they get elsewhere. I use it as a springboard for Marxist humanism and talking about alienation and healthcare access. If it helps them and/or someone they care about, you've built a good foundation for a relationship. That will definitely be a regular contribution of mine to mutual aid projects if it becomes legal.
Yeaaah
Not trying to doom, but I don't see how global temps rising 2-3 C+ an endemic+ deteriorating US empire+ supply chain collapse ends well for anyone
I'm trying to caution my sister against having kids at the moment, but it's clear this shit isn't quite mainstream yet. Speaking from experience, kids who grew up in the suburbs are least equipped to deal with any type of societal disarray
And I wouldn’t even begin to know how to start any sense of community in a state where it’s still illegal to buy alcohol on Sunday
You could always be the "hey it's Sunday and I have free booze" person.
Precarious workers with no acces to land ownership are going to be fucked.
Define collapse.
People dying because of supply chain issues is definitely on the table. Medical supplies, poor food quality (though that's a slow burn)...
Reminder that this is just a preview of the next few decades of climate change.
Well, not a total collapse. It might even be barely noticeable when looking from the outside, because it will directly only impact the poor and those extra deaths might even not be reported on in real time. Someone will just write a book 20 years later on how many people died, while the US media was obsessing about the Daw falling because the Fed increased interest rates or something.
Think? It already is.
Now they're is talk of the fossils fuel supply line collapsing.
I think it's possible to get shortages of some things, chocolate for example. But there are huge market controls the US state has over agriculture to minimise famines. There would more likely be a situation where millions are starving and police are guarding bins, a shortage of buyers
