Please do not call the police on the homeless in the USA.
o sweet summer child, clearly you don't subscribe to the Washington Post
libs would support a program to send homeless people "to a farm upstate" so they never have to think about them again. They'd complain more if we gave them free stuff rather than simply killing the poor
Please do not call the police
on the homelessin the USA.there is no possible good outcome from doing this
You’re calling a state funded death squad to your door. Bare minimum, they’re shooting your dog.
#ByeByeFido
There are situations where indiscriminate violence actually makes a situation better, unfortunately, and in those situations you should call the cops.
I think you might not understand the meaning of the word "indiscriminate."
Imagine a situation where there is already brutal violence being done to you or someone else. In that situation, the worst case scenario when you call the police is that you or that other victim have brutal violence done to them by the cops. But that's not a downgrade, that's just what was already happening. Best case is they stop the violence.
Yeah if you're getting murdered, you don't have much to lose, and even the worst cops usually just want to have a belt notch of stopping a murder, in which case they will often attempt to actually target the correct person. No guarantees though!
What you need to do is call different police departments to the same spot, then set off firecrackers and initiate the indiscriminate violence in which all actions of the officers are their own
It was late at night at my fast food job and both me and my supervisor were closing and the only guy in the lobby was some homeless guy and all of a sudden he starts screaming and crying at the top of his lungs about how no one loves him and how his mom abandoned him and he like he is dying (dude was an alchoholic so he was probably having some withdrawal symptoms or something). Neither of us really give a shit and we're both just kind of messing around and talking but he doesn't stop and we're both like, "yo what if this dude is actually dying?" and then IIRC someone else came in, and he started yelling at them and we were both like "ok lets call 911" and the dispatch decides to send the police because of how we said he was yelling at a customer
keep in mind this guy is like literally 120lbs at the most and is an old drunkard
so we wait and then police literally surround the entire building, they show up with like 5-6 squad cars all pointing their headlights into the lobby and they come in and pull the guy off his seat and start patting him down and interrogating him as a group for what seems like forever
at one point his pants fall down and I see his bony ass and balls
anyway they take him away kinda just picking him by his arms with his feet dragging like he was stood up and the whole time he's still fucking screaming as loud as he can and both me and my supervisor are like
"what the fuck just happened?" just because of how disproportionate the response was to some old ass man
And to think he got off lucky, that's bad but it could have been a hell of a lot worse. :no-police:
screaming and crying at the top of his lungs about how no one loves him and how his mom abandoned him
:sadness-abysmal:
She is voicing the thoughts I went through when I visited LA for the first time as someone from Australia. After all this talk in the media and sports about how awesome LA is and that stars want to live there and all that crap, the fucking shock when I saw LA's streets lined with tents of homeless people who were mostly disabled fucking threw me off so fucking hard. This was many years ago so I can only assume things are even worse. It was on the same level as some cities in third world countries, I couldn't believe it. Really helped me become 100% skeptical of western media.
I'm from the Bay Area and we have a similiarly bad homeless problem and it was still incredibly shocking for me, and I was like born and raised here and like am used to how shitty the USA is....
I remember I was Ubering back to my hotel after a concert and it was raining pretty heavily and you just saw homeless people huddled in every single spot imaginable among the closed for the evening downtown businesses and it was just such a dystopian scene I was like what the fuck
The Bay Area is probably worse these days, seeing the Tenderloin in San Francisco would make you faint
https://youtu.be/nqhV69syfpY
Having seen people lying in their own piss and shit among the stunning skyline for blocks and blocks in one of the richest cities in the world makes that Parenti clip so stinging for me. I tear up at the end when he says "THEN SLEEP IN THE DOORWAYS OF THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE"
where is parenti at these days? Why is chomsky getting so much airtime and this king is nowhere to be seen?
Parenti was smart enough to retire and shut the fuck up. Guy went out on top.
To be fair, Chomsky had absolutely torched his reputation with serious leftists long before now, so if he wants to keep his thing going he has no credibility left to lose on that front. :shrug-outta-hecks:
Parenti clip so stinging for me. I tear up at the end when he says “THEN SLEEP IN THE DOORWAYS OF THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE
Responding so I can watch this clip later.
Powerful video which then autoplayed into a Tucker Carlson video for me. :rage-cry:
My soul can’t even bear to go out late at night anymore because it is so sad and infuriating to see the way the rich have left so many to die. and having them hassle you because no one else is out on the streets at night is also pretty awful and anxiety inducing....
I can’t imagine how much whiplash that must have given you lmfao
so I can only assume things are even worse
You know that Star Trek episode with the Bell Riots? It’s really close to that.
Timeline wise, 2 years. Materially we are WELL past the point of the episode, just not in as visually striking a way as walled of portions of every major city for the hundreds and hundreds of homeless. At least the walled cities had a degree of public housing even though it wasn't nearly enough, there were hallways to sleep in.
I live in a smaller town where our homeless population is almost exclusively made up of couch surfers, but you do occasionally see people sleeping under bridges. One aspect of it is that there are a ton of “utility apartments” located above bars or in leased plazas where the leases are weekly and the regulations are just not enforced for whatever reason. So in effect they’re long-term hotels that you can rent for like $400 a month. They’ve got room for a single-size bed, a toilet, a little shower, and a hot plate. I know a dude who lives in one, sells stolen Marlboro’s out his window, and calls himself Mick Donalds. Super chill dude
this is the future Americans are scared of. that their social media feed will just become videos of John Cena apologizing in Chinese and fashionable young women scolding American culture.
It might be one of the few things that could actually break the stranglehold of the decades of propaganda
That’ll probably be a part of the reaction to the propaganda and delusions shattering, yeah. This is based on the violent :cope: of white Americans to anything that remotely acknowledges their own privilege or that many of their ancestors committed genocide.
Suddenly not getting their treats for the same “low cost” and then having to put those pieces together is going to set off a monstrous reaction.
Lmao no fucking way. That's literally never going to happen. Americans will still be yelling "we're the greatest country on earth" after it turns into mad max
Maybe I’m just in a bubble, and I definitely am in a bubble, but I think that illusion is fading faster than you think. Literally every young person I know is like “America is the Bad Place”, and even the Real Adults™ I know, like professors and shit, fairly wealthy white people, are at least like “Healthcare and covid protections pls :yes-honey-left:” and think the government fucked us. I can’t imagine that becoming any less true as conditions continue to get worse.
I want to believe what you're saying but that's optimism, which is never correct
Yeah you live in a bubble. There are Trump supporting homeless people in my city with American flags on their shopping carts. :brainworms: The brainworms are untreatable in many cases
Oh I mean, I know some Trump supporters too. But they’re the only ones left who seem to think America is good, and they’re certainly not a majority, they’re just very loud. And even they think America’s fucked it’s just for a combination of stupid reasons and fascist reasons.
Literally just a century of us not being able to pillage and oppress the rest of the world, but Americans tantrum and mald the whole time lolol
Imagine having a train station in any city that you could get on a train and get to your hometown in america
reserve army of labor and a visible threat of what happens if you don't submit to the wage relationship
Freedom to die alone, cold, and starving in a gutter.
:amerikkka-clap:
Great country.
It’s so fucked up that my first thought when I saw that was “oh, that streets not bad, I’ve seen way worse in my city”.
thought this was going to be that video of
skid rowphilly that went aroudn a few months ago with lots of people standing around shaking and nodding out
:libertarian-approaching: As a Libertarian I recognize that having homeless people on the streets is a good thing, as it will remind my child servants that that's what will be waiting for them if they displease me.
Goddamn I cannot wait to murder all these rich fuckers.
Edit: as part of an organized and principled revolutionary militia.
after receiving the properly notarized order of execution from your duly appointed local worker's council, of course
No, in real life. This is not advocating for adventurism or an immediate threat / plan.
Bruh, a lot of shelters have very small occupancies and to top it off, they are incredibly abusive and discriminatory to marginalized communities.
A bunch don’t allow you to bring pets. Think about how fucked up that is. I could never abandon my dog out on the streets by themselves. :sadness-abysmal:
A bunch also have ridiculous hours as well, like you have to be in by 6pm and out by 5am which means its nearly impossible to hold a job (44% of all homeless are employed)
"it's all worth it! It's ALL WORTH IT! Porky gets to keep his stuff! and PORKY NEEDS STUFF! Surely you yucky poors can go without? You somehow manage to not survive without a yacht, what's it to you if you don't have a roof over your head?"
yeah, it's the strict rules, the low number of beds versus high demand, almost zero accountability when abusers commit crimes. It's a total shitshow.
The one good thing I’ll say about Utah, is that they’ve apparently done a really decent job of providing housing services.
Someone posted an article on here a while back about it. They bought a bunch of motels and converted them into community shelters with onsite social services / clinics.
They stopped doing this several years ago, actually. Then they bulldozed the largest shelter in the state at the behest of developers without building anything to replace it. Now homelessness is worse than ever, mostly concentrated in Salt Lake City. It’s been really sad to see it worsen over the last few years.
Salt Lake City is painfully transitioning from weird backwater to gentrified playground, similar to other western cities like Portland and Denver.
I take back any and all positive things I have ever said about the snakepit state of Utah.
It’s really upsetting that they did away with that program, because like you said, it actually worked and put a lot of people in homes.
Ugh, gentrification. Somehow I need to be punished for living in a place that rich people think is "chic". Proving once again :porky-happy: can be a thief while paying for something.
Where I am at, I had a lady complain to me that the "affordable/day rate motel" was bringing undesireables. People have really been indoctrinated to sound like monsters on a daily basis.
Yeah. People have really been indoctrinated to act like monsters on a daily basis.
Weird how infamous boomers are for being cheapskates but that all changes if it means bolstering their ego. They'd rather lose money so they can FEEL rich than actually be materially better off.
The homeless are meant to be there. They are there as examples of what happens to you if you don't fall in line with capitalism.
Yes. If you are a life unworthy of life, then you've displeased capital.
:this:
Ending homelessness and poverty would be a negligible expense for states in the imperial core. It might even be a long-term financial benefit for them to prevent people from hitting the bottom. People who are driven mad by deprivation can be pretty destructive.
It is kept as a feature of society in order to discipline the working class and scare them into submission.
There’s plenty of data showing that it saves governments money to straight up provide housing and healthcare to the homeless than to let them live on the streets. But that doesn’t discipline the poors.
IIRC it was weirdly Utah where they tested housing first models to combatting homelessness (it proved very effective, as you say). The fact that it solves the problem more effectively then other solutions and is cheaper for the government than other solutions, but isn't standard practice shows how little will there is to actually end homelessness.
Didn’t Utah then go on to end those programs even though they were undeniably successful?
Way less surprising than them doing it in the first place, honestly.
Even though I intellectually know why, I, an american, don't understand either.
Yeah but at least rich people don't have to pay taxes :freedom-and-democracy:
Why can't the US be cool and disappear people who deserve it for once?
Oh wow, I’d never seen that one! I love Lumumba. So glad we have an emoji of him.
:possum-party:
She have a TikTok or 抖音? I’d follow to hear more wtfs like this from Chinese folks.
If the point of being free is to become happy, why not just choose happy, and make sure you get what you want, which is happiness??? Stupid class. You were right.
