"Isn’t it this majority that has woven the multi-racial multi-ethnic fabric that binds the still emerging U.S. nation? And shouldn’t we take pride in its accomplishments and victories? Is there not a pride of class and people that we can take heart in, helping restore our faith, providing a sense of optimism and strength as we continue the revolutionary and democratic struggle to perfect this still imperfect union? Yes, there is a such a thing as working-class patriotism and it is our duty to uphold and defend it while distinguishing it from the false patriotism of the ruling class and particularly its extreme right. I am discussing here the substance of the matter of patriotism.
Do U.S. communists not love their country? And the answer here (and for the communist and working-class parties in each nation) is unequivocally yes And it is on this basis of this love for family, neighborhood, co-workers, friends, comrades, and class that we fight. In fact, it is the basis for our working-class internationalism.
It was particularly disturbing for this writer to see “No room for patriotism’s” arguments clothed in what is called “Marxism-Leninism.” To me, this is a Marxism-Leninism that is not in our tradition"
I think using the language of a legitimately progressive document that just about every American can at least relate to and draping yourself in the American flag are at the very least a big difference in degree. The tenth point in the program is reparations, which is very much not a tailist policy.
Who has merely "draped themselves in the American flag"? It is the "Communist Party of the USA" right? And not the Communist Party of some as-of-yet unformed or abstract polity?
Joe Sims repeating the "Trump Derangement Syndrome" line and saying that the Biden administration is what has "facilitated" the recent strike wave are definitely tailist
What name should they be using? The Communist Party of Unceded Native Land?
I don't know what you're talking about with the first part and if you're referencing the article I think you are for the second part, that's uncharitable. I think the stance about the Biden cabinet is definitely unfounded optimism but he clearly outlines that class struggle is what has facilitated the strike wave.
"socialist patriotism" and "Bill of Rights socialism" mean the same thing
Native tribes are each & among them fighting to acquire ancestral lands & rightful territory, and they have been for generations
CPUSA's motto 70 years ago was "Communism is 20th century Americanism"
And no, Joe Sims says explicitly that it's Biden who has provided some "Era of Good Feeling" or something
"One of the reasons the strikes are taking place is that workers feel like they can win. It’s created an atmosphere where labor feels that the administration has their back"
“socialist patriotism” and “Bill of Rights socialism” mean the same thing
No they don't.
Native tribes are each & among them fighting to acquire ancestral lands & rightful territory, and they have been for generations
Ok that doesn't answer the question.
CPUSA’s motto 70 years ago was “Communism is 20th century Americanism”
70 years ago.
And no, Joe Sims says explicitly that it’s Biden who has provided some “Era of Good Feeling” or something
“One of the reasons the strikes are taking place is that workers feel like they can win. It’s created an atmosphere where labor feels that the administration has their back”
Yeah I think I'd disagree with that, but it's not like it's unambiguously false.
Was Joe Sims wrong in 2014 or is he wrong now?
He was wrong in 2014, that's what the word "development" means.
this is what Joe Sims wrote in 2014 lol
https://www.cpusa.org/article/some-thoughts-on-patriotism-the-national-question-and-the-leninist-tradition/
"Isn’t it this majority that has woven the multi-racial multi-ethnic fabric that binds the still emerging U.S. nation? And shouldn’t we take pride in its accomplishments and victories? Is there not a pride of class and people that we can take heart in, helping restore our faith, providing a sense of optimism and strength as we continue the revolutionary and democratic struggle to perfect this still imperfect union? Yes, there is a such a thing as working-class patriotism and it is our duty to uphold and defend it while distinguishing it from the false patriotism of the ruling class and particularly its extreme right. I am discussing here the substance of the matter of patriotism.
Do U.S. communists not love their country? And the answer here (and for the communist and working-class parties in each nation) is unequivocally yes And it is on this basis of this love for family, neighborhood, co-workers, friends, comrades, and class that we fight. In fact, it is the basis for our working-class internationalism.
It was particularly disturbing for this writer to see “No room for patriotism’s” arguments clothed in what is called “Marxism-Leninism.” To me, this is a Marxism-Leninism that is not in our tradition"
Is he trolling? Or is the CPUSA leadership kept?
Eh I mean seven years is a lot of room for ideological development.
is it development or reversion?
how does "Bill of Rights socialism" functionally differ from "socialist patriotism?"
I think using the language of a legitimately progressive document that just about every American can at least relate to and draping yourself in the American flag are at the very least a big difference in degree. The tenth point in the program is reparations, which is very much not a tailist policy.
Who has merely "draped themselves in the American flag"? It is the "Communist Party of the USA" right? And not the Communist Party of some as-of-yet unformed or abstract polity?
Joe Sims repeating the "Trump Derangement Syndrome" line and saying that the Biden administration is what has "facilitated" the recent strike wave are definitely tailist
What name should they be using? The Communist Party of Unceded Native Land?
I don't know what you're talking about with the first part and if you're referencing the article I think you are for the second part, that's uncharitable. I think the stance about the Biden cabinet is definitely unfounded optimism but he clearly outlines that class struggle is what has facilitated the strike wave.
"socialist patriotism" and "Bill of Rights socialism" mean the same thing
Native tribes are each & among them fighting to acquire ancestral lands & rightful territory, and they have been for generations
CPUSA's motto 70 years ago was "Communism is 20th century Americanism"
And no, Joe Sims says explicitly that it's Biden who has provided some "Era of Good Feeling" or something
"One of the reasons the strikes are taking place is that workers feel like they can win. It’s created an atmosphere where labor feels that the administration has their back"
Was Joe Sims wrong in 2014 or is he wrong now?
No they don't.
Ok that doesn't answer the question.
70 years ago.
Yeah I think I'd disagree with that, but it's not like it's unambiguously false.
He was wrong in 2014, that's what the word "development" means.
Yes they do.
I don't remember you asking a non-rhetorical or earnest question.
Yes, and it holds true today. Just as Sims says last year and 7 years ago.
Yes, it's unambiguously false. It is the pandemic & mass backlash against faulty public health & corporate policy since the start of it
But there is nothing about "development" here, you're just throwing that in there
Joe Sims was correct in 2014, and the nonsense about Trump has only muddied the waters