How does this get accomplished? Bernie tried to promote a bunch of pro-worker/pro-labor policies, but clearly that didn't work. I also think all of the "Right Wing populist" stuff is phony and not actually true.

So what is the actual answer?

  • Blottergrass [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    by Dems doing what Bernie did but as a party, not as a lone, fringe outlier hated by his own party. They have no progressive economic agenda. People rule this out like its already been tried, but it hasn't.

    • GoopOnYaGrinch [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      But how would that change anything? Bernie presented a platform that was extremely pro-labor and with a progressive economic agenda. The working class voters were given the option to vote on having a party lead by people with that agenda in mind and they chose not to.

      So what would change about that if more Dems adopted Bernie's platform?

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        do you remember the insane amount of energy they put into demonising Sanders? They stopped just short of saying he boiled and ate children live on TV. The party asked them to do that. If the party didn't ask them to do that, or asked them to favorably report, it would be better received.

      • D61 [any]
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        3 years ago

        So, Bernie go to be the "good guy" but not the "practical guy" when he was running for president.

        Remember all the framing of Bernie's policies as "pie in the sky" or "everybody gets a free pony"? Yup, Bernie got to be the nice uncle that lets you stay up late to watch movies past bed time and looks the other way when he sees you sneaking cookies before dinner. But he didn't get to be the serious responsible adult.

        Having a large block of Dem party members who would actually stick to an agenda and vote as a block for pro worker policies would make it much harder to paint Bernie with the "he's a nice guy but impractical" brush. There would be more people so it would make those policies harder to paint as "pie in the sky" by media and detractors. Having a disciplined voting block who would actually make demands of other legislators and punish them for not failing to meet those demands could give the impression that there would be a reason to keep voting for those representatives.

      • MockingTurd [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        The working class voters were given the option to vote on having a party lead by people with that agenda

        Were they though? The democrats as a party just have that corporate stink on them now. A lot of people I canvassed would say they supported the policies but didn't think bernie could do it with the party fighting him

      • L183R4L [any]
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        3 years ago

        "Chose" is doing a ton of work here. Canvassing for Bernie, I heard so much outlandish shit about what he was going to do or how it was going to negatively impact them (almost exclusively working class people living in some not great areas) personally. If elections were somehow fair and only facts were given to the voters AND it was made readily available and easily understandable and Bernie still lost then yeah the voters chose this, but there were innumerable instances of Democrats, Republicans, and the media at large (samepicture.jpg) straight up lying about what would happen under a Bernie presidency that I'd be surprised if 1/10th of registered Democrats could tell you the actual difference between Bernie and Joe Biden

        • MathVelazquez [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          The majority of voters in the 2020 South Carolina primary thought that Biden was pro medicare for all. The media really does control elections.