I genuinely have no idea where the joke came from but it seems pretty big since I've heard it IRL a few times now. Where did this come from?

  • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    It comes from white US people, who can barely prepare store bought pasta, asserting Italian identity as a way to both claim minority status and superiority to other groups

    Actual Italians are pretty dope :gramsci-heh:

    • SandGland [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I know plenty of chuds who hate African Americans for being lazy/violent while thinking Africans from Africa are hardworking and based. This is an extremely yikes take.

      • Dewot523 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Italian-Americans are in absolutely no sense systematically oppressed and were aggressively incorporated into whiteness post WW1 and WW2. It's funny as shit. The modern function of whiteness is to shear you from any sense of historical identity so seeing these fully americanized chuds try to claim an ethnicity they no longer have any meaningful relation to is darkly comic in a way.

        Also p sure eventually communism will reproduce a monoculture that will render all attachments to historical identity similar to the plight of the current Italian American so it's a good preview for the theater of the absurd that living in a communist society will entail because God knows not everyone is gonna accept the cultural production of a new organizing economic model that easily.

    • hahafuck [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Actual Italians are ime far more bigoted and almost as goofy as the ones that moved to America.

      • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I'll take your word for it, I definitely have more exposure to Italian Americans than Italian nationals.

        That said, Italian Americans (like most whites in US) have fully bought into the settler colonial project of the US.

        • hahafuck [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Absolutely they have as a condition of being whitified or whatever it is people say, although historically Italian immigrants tended to be less reactionary than WASPs, Spanish, French, etc, but thats all ancient history really. But its like hearing Dutch people complain about Afrikaners, lotta pot-calling-the-kettle-blackface goes on when Euroscum get to feeling superior