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    • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      It seems to be a mayo-specific thing where they think lions or orcas or etc don't kill people because they saw a video of one raised by humans in a zoo once

      • Ziege_Bock [any]
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        3 years ago

        Not sure if you're joking, but the world's only recorded orca attack was from one that had been imprisoned in a water park. Famously, there's never been a record of an Orca in the wild attacking a person. More people have been raped by dolphins.

        • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Famously, there’s never been a record of an Orca in the wild attacking a person

          Probably has everything to do with habitat ranges, and nothing to do with orcas "magically loving humanity"

            • Ziege_Bock [any]
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              3 years ago

              absolutely, it's actually pretty weird to be honest. I've read that in response to depleted fish stocks, Orcas in some areas have started predating recovering Sea Otter populations, which hitherto have been avoided. You'd imagine that an Orca would rather sneak a person, perhaps a fat child, rather than downing something that is mostly oily hair, but we can only speculate on the inner workings of the Cetacean mind.

              • modsarefascist [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                I think they recognize that it's dangerous. Cus otherwise you'd still see cases of them killing humans for the fun of it like they do occasionally in the wild with other animals they don't eat. If they find something they can kill by won't eat they often will kill it and use it as a toy until they get bored.

                But never with humans, not a once even in oral legends from all around the world there's still never been a known case. IMO I think they recognize that we're dangerous and not tasty. They certainly understand the idea of "don't piss off this one animal or it's friends will fuck us up" simply because they do that with each other all the time. If the larger pod finds a small orca from a smaller pod they'll harass the shit out of it many times. But the smaller pod won't do that to a lone orca from the larger pod (usually, sometimes they still do), cus they don't want to start a turf war essentially. I think that's what they're likely doing with us, treating us like the bigger pod that just isn't worth the effort of the fight.

                • invalidusernamelol [he/him]M
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                  3 years ago

                  I'm sure they're aware that we are friends with the giant metal things that are like 100x larger than them and they don't want to piss those things off.

                  That doesn't explain the historical aspect though.

                  • modsarefascist [he/him]
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                    3 years ago

                    it's pretty clear they've been avoiding us since long before modern fishing, it's likely what I said that they see us as competitors who aren't worth the fight

              • kristina [she/her]
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                3 years ago

                probably we just dont have enough blubber on us for them to be interested

                maybe a particularly large human would interest them

            • Quimby [any, any]
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              3 years ago

              there's even cases of orcas actively rescuing humans.

          • Ziege_Bock [any]
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            3 years ago

            nothing to do with orcas “magically loving humanity”

            did some one claim that, or did you infer it? It's probably not anything related to habitat ranges, for what it's worth. Orcas have a huge range, and they're not really pelagic, they like coastal areas much like people do. this video is clearly from the PNW, where people have been living for thousands of years, primarily from managing these very same waters.

            Perhaps Orcas find us disgusting or unpalatable, much like great whites seem not to like the taste of people. Regardless, there's never been a recorded attack of a person by a wild Orca.

      • modsarefascist [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        This is really stupid man....

        They've never attacked a human unprovoked. It's a well known thing and has always been weird. It's becoming clear in the last 50 years that they're likely either know we're not worth the effort (too boney) or even more likely they know we are too dangerous to fuck with.

        • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          recorded cases do all the work in rehabilitating sea-borne predators. literally thousands of people go missing at sea each year, and an unknown proportion are predated & or cleaned up by fish & sea creatures.