But lets be honest, the magnitude of bad anarchist takes can’t all be coming from
:yea: I got banned from almost every anarchist space just for getting annoyed at obvious fed posting. And everyone in the vaguely left subs just thinks I'm a tankie. Like jesus christ motherfuckers touch grass and do some organizing, anarchist praxis is the most accessible form of praxis one can do in the US and in the short term the most necessary.
I feel like I have to tread more lightly in Antiwork but I'm trying to bring folks around to reading some good debrainworming stuff like Black Shirts and Reds where I can.
I'm pretty sure any anarchist that does direct action is too busy doing that to, idk, call anyone who doesn't buy the bullshit astroturfed Cuba protests a tankie on Twitter all day.
Yep the literal anarchist crust punk kids that went and fought with cops for fucking up the FNB free kitchen in my area had no clue that was even happening. When I told some of them none of them were like "well you know the cuban government is authoritarian too" they were just as pissed as any of us about the US starving them with sanctions and inciting violence.
Yesterday I had to explain to one such anarchist that yes, actually, Cuba good even if you're an anarchist and not an ML, and posting images of Xi as Winnie the pooh is in fact, racist.
Like jesus christ motherfuckers touch grass and do some organizing, anarchist praxis is the most accessible form of praxis one can do in the US and in the short term the most necessary.
For real. I'm an ML and have been doing most of my IRL organizing with anarchists, both because they're just the people who are around in my area and because of what you say- their praxis is the praxis our community needs right now.
I think it's straight up just an ancap pretending to be an anarchist, he keeps insisting that capitalism is good and everything will just work out essentially. Not even doing a good job pretending to be an anarchist, he keeps referring to "altruism". Anarchist who wants to maintain capitalism and wants the holes filled by charity is just too dumb to be believable.
yeah austin red guard is so fed when there are government shutdowns they shut down too, I doubt there's any ancaps involved just informants and undercovers
There was a bunch of people defending Pol Pot on Twitter the other day so there's a fun time to be had there. Gonzalists too, though I've met one or two of those that like his theory but think he's a shit.
I think there's really a point to be had here. It's not that there are a lot of "bad anarchists" but in the US especially and english speaking countries in general it's the more accessible entry point to the left, so you get a disproportionate number of people who have adopted it out of a desire to find their footing in the left but decades of being submerged in anti-communist propaganda puts all these thought terminating obstacles in the way of for example accepting that dialectical materialism is a useful tool for analysis or that there's a lot to be learned from Maoism and mass line tactics that overlaps with anarchism.
There's also that the superficial understanding of anarchism=freedom is too similar to the American ideology. It means that people can become anarchists without ever doing much self-criticism or examining their own biases.
Yeah that was a hurdle I got over mostly thanks of being exposed to the very broad diversity of takes on the old sub. I'm still an anarchist in many of my ideals, I grew up around a bunch of pot farmers old radical hippies and weird anarchist preppers so it's deeply embedded in my ideology. But I can also recognize that there is use value in all sorts of theory and praxis and I know who my comrades are.
There's been a much higher frequency of "anarchists" having these dogshit takes across the internet at large. You can't hardly critique American foreign policy without getting called an evil tankie these days.
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Eh, guy who thinks anarchism and anarcho-capitalism are compatible has such a loose grip on the concept that it's barely a bad anarchist take.
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:yea: I got banned from almost every anarchist space just for getting annoyed at obvious fed posting. And everyone in the vaguely left subs just thinks I'm a tankie. Like jesus christ motherfuckers touch grass and do some organizing, anarchist praxis is the most accessible form of praxis one can do in the US and in the short term the most necessary.
At least I've been working on dragging r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM in a better direction
I feel like I have to tread more lightly in Antiwork but I'm trying to bring folks around to reading some good debrainworming stuff like Black Shirts and Reds where I can.
I'm pretty sure any anarchist that does direct action is too busy doing that to, idk, call anyone who doesn't buy the bullshit astroturfed Cuba protests a tankie on Twitter all day.
Yep the literal anarchist crust punk kids that went and fought with cops for fucking up the FNB free kitchen in my area had no clue that was even happening. When I told some of them none of them were like "well you know the cuban government is authoritarian too" they were just as pissed as any of us about the US starving them with sanctions and inciting violence.
Yesterday I had to explain to one such anarchist that yes, actually, Cuba good even if you're an anarchist and not an ML, and posting images of Xi as Winnie the pooh is in fact, racist.
For real. I'm an ML and have been doing most of my IRL organizing with anarchists, both because they're just the people who are around in my area and because of what you say- their praxis is the praxis our community needs right now.
I think it's straight up just an ancap pretending to be an anarchist, he keeps insisting that capitalism is good and everything will just work out essentially. Not even doing a good job pretending to be an anarchist, he keeps referring to "altruism". Anarchist who wants to maintain capitalism and wants the holes filled by charity is just too dumb to be believable.
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Or Haz/InfraRed. Or the Austin Red Guard.
There's dipshit grifters and feds claiming all sorts of tendencies
I thought Austin Red Guard were feds pretending to be Maoist Third Worldists or something
yeah austin red guard is so fed when there are government shutdowns they shut down too, I doubt there's any ancaps involved just informants and undercovers
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There was a bunch of people defending Pol Pot on Twitter the other day so there's a fun time to be had there. Gonzalists too, though I've met one or two of those that like his theory but think he's a shit.
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Haz and all the "patriot socialists" are prime examples along with the Austin Red Guard etc.
Fuck off this is even worse sectarian baiting than the phenomenon you're talking about.
I think there's really a point to be had here. It's not that there are a lot of "bad anarchists" but in the US especially and english speaking countries in general it's the more accessible entry point to the left, so you get a disproportionate number of people who have adopted it out of a desire to find their footing in the left but decades of being submerged in anti-communist propaganda puts all these thought terminating obstacles in the way of for example accepting that dialectical materialism is a useful tool for analysis or that there's a lot to be learned from Maoism and mass line tactics that overlaps with anarchism.
There's also that the superficial understanding of anarchism=freedom is too similar to the American ideology. It means that people can become anarchists without ever doing much self-criticism or examining their own biases.
Yeah that was a hurdle I got over mostly thanks of being exposed to the very broad diversity of takes on the old sub. I'm still an anarchist in many of my ideals, I grew up around a bunch of pot farmers old radical hippies and weird anarchist preppers so it's deeply embedded in my ideology. But I can also recognize that there is use value in all sorts of theory and praxis and I know who my comrades are.
There's been a much higher frequency of "anarchists" having these dogshit takes across the internet at large. You can't hardly critique American foreign policy without getting called an evil tankie these days.
There's much more internet anarchists then internet Marxists I'm pretty confident, at least on English social media.
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