This isn’t a sequel to the 1984 film. It’s a sequel to spinoff merchandising objects and the coddled memories of kids who were too young to understand that the “Keymaster” and “Gatekeeper” bit was a sex joke. It strip-mines a nostalgia for something that never existed, as calculatedly phony as the ersatz Americana setting, shot in Alberta, Canada. “Ghostbusters: Afterlife” treats with pseudo-religious reverence the events of a movie in which a ghost blew Dan Aykroyd in a firehouse.

Fuckin Brutal. Ban all fandoms why do they keep trying to make sequels and shit to a two hour SNL sketch that has never worked outside of that one movie

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    95% audience approval rating according to RottenTomatoes.

    Either it's the opposite of review bombing by reactionary culture warriors that hated the female-led reboot that badly, which sounds quite possible, or worse, that many audience members that bothered to go to RottenTomatoes were that thrilled for their childhoods to be pandered to, al la Ready Player One.

    Old things can be nice. I like some old things. I don't like when old things are reanimated by people that didn't actually understand why the thing they like was good the first time.

    I wonder if this is related to that theory that states that right wing media consumers selectively look for the parts of their entertainment that please them and ignore the rest, resulting in the Verhoven Starship Troopers movie inspiring actual enthusiasm for fascism, or Fight Club inspiring Tyler Durden LARPers to make fight clubs of their own. In this case, I wonder if Ghostbusters: Afterlife didn't really need to do anything for those people except press the right buttons and enough of those right buttons, and everything else about it didn't matter.

    I've noticed the usual bunch of Youtube culture warriors are using the film as a rallying point. They really never got over the 2016 film existing. At all.

    One more thing: what's with these people and their sentimental cornfield imagery? Michael Bay used it a lot in his horrible Transformers films, Interstellar was presumably about space travel but the cornfields were the primary imagery, and I'm too tired to give more examples but there are many more.

    • gullyfoyleismyname [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      God's Not Dead has a 75% audience score too, people gotta chill with Rotten Tomatoes and metacritic them shits is why mediocrity is the target at the cinema lately and not something to be avoided

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        3 years ago

        Half of movie marketing today is pumping up people's culture-war reactionary tendencies, in order to turn everything into "cult classic" material.

        You don't try to make a good movie. You just run a bunch of bots that tell people "If you don't like this movie then you're not my friend" and bully people into liking it.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    The bit about there not being jokes in this movie is pretty much all I have to say. I think I might like the 2016 movie better than this one because it actually tries to be funny, even if it fails most of the time.

  • gullyfoyleismyname [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Also as an addendum- TV Tropes forum is absolutely fucking insane. I talked about this movie being shit over there and the guys over there got like actually physically offended lmao :tequila-sunset:

    • camaron28 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Well, that's your fault, haha.

      How is the forum? I like the site but i'm sure the forums must be full of idiots who believe recognizing tropes means they are critics.

      • gullyfoyleismyname [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        It is the most liberal place I've ever seen.. Fucking absurd like 2007 liberalism too which sux because I miss tradforums so much I put up with it usually

        Check out the thread they got on the new Ghostbusters movie, I'm the dude with the Green Knight avatar getting yelled at by funko pop collectors for daring to ask if maybe this remake/sequel/franchise obsession we got now aint a sign of serious cultural decline

        • camaron28 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Look at my post history, my recent post about Tvtropes.

          Haha, imagine saying that shows need to appeal to "both sides". Bunch of dorks.

          • gullyfoyleismyname [none/use name]
            hexagon
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            3 years ago

            Ahhh yeah that's classic TV Tropes.

            TV Tropes: The site that looked at Ceasar's Legion in fallout NV and were like "WOW HOW NUANCED! LE GREY AND GREY MORALITY!!!"

          • gullyfoyleismyname [none/use name]
            hexagon
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            3 years ago

            Yeah, their politics thread is people who have GIRLBOSS mugs all looking at eachother in suprise at how liberalism is crumbling before them.

            Fuck, I should have screenshotted their afghanistan thread before I got banned. Shit was hilarious, this one guy CT Phillips (one of those authors that makes pages for his own writing lol) was losing his shit that we were pulling out because "Won't somebody please think of the women!!1"

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      It's amazing to see Lady Ghostbusters be a shameless nostalgic remake of Ghostbusters with Ladies that people hate. And then Kid Ghostbusters is a shameless nostalgic remake of Ghostbusters with Kids that people adore. It's THE SAME FUCKING MOVIE.

      I hate people.

  • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Reminds me of when adult men got mad at The Last Jedi (which is by no means a masterpiece) for having too many women/daring to even question the status quo, and then Disney responded with the incoherent mess that was Rise of Skywalker, dropping any plot points that made the previous film interesting

    In response to Female Ghostbusters, they made an inoffensive but completely worthless film

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      I just remember being the only person to walk out of "The Force Awakens" thinking "What the shit was this giant pile of nostolgic crap? The movie was absolutely terrible!" and getting heckled by my friends as a shameless purist.

      Then "Last Jedi" comes out and I hear people bemoaning how everything was ruined. All I could think was "where were you for the last movie?"

      • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
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        3 years ago

        I think people were so traumatized by the prequel trilogy that they were willing to be impressed by anything. Also, looking at the best selling films of 2015, the competition wasn't very good either. The first one promised the return of good star wars films, by the second it became obvious that they didn't have anything special

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          3 years ago

          The prequel trilogy had a lot of problems, but the underlying story wasn't one of them. Lucas had a certified winner second trilogy before he Disney-fied everything in post. Putting some distance between the hammy dialogue, and giving the fan community to bevel off the rough edges, really polished those turds into diamonds over time.

          The sequel trilogy was comparatively better in all the ways that didn't hold up. Better acting, better cinematography, more restraint in CGI, better pacing. But the story was one part naked rehash and one part confused retcon bullshit. The mythology of the series was mangled as the entire Extended Universe was discarded for... what? The need to make Even Bigger Death Star overshadowed the character stories that people were really excited to see. Interesting new characters were left on the cutting room floor while classics were dragged out of retirement to just kinda dangle.

          And that was all in the first movie. The second actually did try to course correct. But it was playing tug-of-war with a toxic online community, delivering half a good movie and then setting up a disaster of a closer.

          • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Well said. The sequels were "bad" but at least they were memorable. In 10 years I don't know if anyone will care about the sequels

  • chiefecula [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    a movie in which a ghost blew Dan Aykroyd in a firehouse

    skull vodka man didn't get head from a ghost, he only had a dream of getting it. His work was taking all his time, he was sexually frustrated, he had a sex dream. It had ghosts because he works with ghosts, that's it. He didn't actually have sex with a ghost.

    Also it wasn't in a firehouse. He was sleeping in a firehouse, but in the dream he was in some kind of haunted mansion.

  • mr_world [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    The bit about the small town being a mix of anachronistic 1950s elements and giant Walmarts is a real thing though, as someone from a town like that. While dense urban areas were buys gentrifying to have fusion restaurants and high-income condos, the rural areas were gentrifying to be like 1950s Main Street. Trying to bring back a time to make all the old people and conservatives feel like they're in an old time small town and not in the corpse of mid-century America.

    • gullyfoyleismyname [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      tbf Realistically speaking Small-town America from like, the 30's to the early 50's is what you wanna aim for with modern small towns anyway, because they were designed without cars in mind so they are places where humans can live.

      You can still see it in New England because that place was fully ossified by the time cars showed up. Small towns but you can walk to places and shit, it's cozy

  • Kanna [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Oof the trailer made it obvious this was gonna be shit. Just that two minute clip couldn't convey a gone properly

  • guppyman [any]
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    3 years ago

    Every Ghostbuster movie sucked. Only good thing to come from that franchise is Neil Cicierega's Bustin'

  • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    From the RLM reddit:

    spoiler

    Ah, fuck it. Let’s just talk about Ghostbusters: Afterlife!

    ECTO ONE! PROTON PACK! EGON SPENGLER! GHOST TRAP! Peter Venkman’s back! Dana Barrett! Slimer!

    No, no that was some other ghost.

    Oh, I thought they cast the same actor and he gained a buncha weight.

    No, no Slimer’s not a real gho… FIREHOUSE!

    We go back to Hook and Ladder 8! REMEMBER THE GHOSTBUSTERS FIREHOUSE?! “Who you gonna call?”

    Maybe they'll stop trying to make these pointless Ghostbusters sequels now. Remember when they tried to turn it into a Cinematic Universe the last time around :hahaha:

  • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I will stan the genderbent Ghostbusters film because it did new and interesting things. It wasn't great. But really, the first wasn't either. Being funny and interesting is enough though so it's fine.

    I am sad that this is not just a live action remake of the eXtreme Ghostbusters though

    • gullyfoyleismyname [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I don't stan anything Ghostbusters related. They are all bad except the one movie in the 80's and I wish people weren't so bloody attached to the security blanket of "franchise" that you can't market a big movie anymore unless it's already based on something

      • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Nah, the 80s one is bad to. It was just bad in ways we didn't recognize as children. It was also good. Same with 2, and genderbent.

        The genderbent one did capture the SNL vibe. Which is bad. On the good side it did a bunch of cool stuff with cinematography and wiriting especially in reguards to female characters that I don't think has been matched yet. So it is cool it exists just so some future filmmaker can have those shots in their brain.

  • blobjim [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Why is there an ad for DualSense controllers at the end of the trailer 😆

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    I thought they couldn't make a movie more wearying than the last Ghostbusters film, but by God, they did it!