The cringe on the site is mostly limited to biographies of Stalin/Trotsky and some other dudes, the rest is just Marxists works. Now if only these Trots could learn web design...
P.S. Check out https://archive.marxists.xyz if you wanna see what a modern take on marxists.org would look like, it's currently being worked on by some comrades from leftypol and although there's barely anything on it for now it's still pretty cool
Awesome! The good think about marxists.org is that all the texts are reflowable because they're raw html. You can convert all of them into epub in 10 minutes. I just rip the whole site (only like 60GB) and keep it in a folder. Wouldn't be hard to reflow the pages into a fancier container either. Firefoxes reader mode does a fantastic job and that a generalized solution.
Because building a site around the two is far from "modern". Maybe 10 years ago it was, but not now.
At this point there's not much good reason to use jQuery (and especially jQuery UI, which the site also seems to be using) over either vanilla ES6+ or an actual framework.
And Bootstrap can be alright, if you are using one of the latest versions, but this site is using Bootstrap 3 (for reference the latest is 5 and the transition from 3 to 4 was pretty big).
Tbf this site seems to have inherited all that from the wiki engine they chose to use, but it still chose to use that engine.
(Also at my job I work on an old-ass project that uses jQuery and Bootstrap 3 and I hate it.)
jQuery is old. No doubt. But it still serves a purpose if you have to maintain those old legacy websites. If it's using bootstrap 3 then it's old, I didn't look at the website.
Mirror it yourself, it's only 50 gigs (~750 gigs with pdfs) . They have the wget command on the FAQ page along with several already existing mirrors. They used to sell hard drives too so there's plenty of copies of it out there
I’d be pretty down to help organize something. Maybe we can bug the sitemods / admins about if they would be willing to host all this on the git or something?
they dont have any documents from the CPSU from the Khrushchev era onward. They're basically impossible to find and I've only seen them hosted on sites like the Wilson Archives lol
I'd be pretty down to help organize something. Maybe we can bug the sitemods / admins about if they would be willing to host all this on the git or something?
Sorry I made a typo , i meant the Soviet Union Communist party, not the American party. Here's one example of documents specifically in regards to the Soviet Invasion of Czechoslovakia and the CPSU arguments/justifications for why they had to stop the counter-revolutionary uprising.
https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/collection/77/soviet-invasion-of-czechoslovakia If you can find other documents or events from the website that would be wonderful
Edit: https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/collection/9/1956-polish-and-hungarian-crises Heres another about Poland and Hungary
It's one of the few places you can actually read Stalin's work online so I'll give them that
The cringe on the site is mostly limited to biographies of Stalin/Trotsky and some other dudes, the rest is just Marxists works. Now if only these Trots could learn web design...
P.S. Check out https://archive.marxists.xyz if you wanna see what a modern take on marxists.org would look like, it's currently being worked on by some comrades from leftypol and although there's barely anything on it for now it's still pretty cool
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I love fast brutalist web design, aesthetics are what lies come dressed in
:zizek-preference: It's all aesthetics.
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A bit of CSS as a treat would be pretty poggers.
https://thebestmotherfucking.website/
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ok but why is their search function so bad
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Awesome! The good think about marxists.org is that all the texts are reflowable because they're raw html. You can convert all of them into epub in 10 minutes. I just rip the whole site (only like 60GB) and keep it in a folder. Wouldn't be hard to reflow the pages into a fancier container either. Firefoxes reader mode does a fantastic job and that a generalized solution.
Like actual comrades or "let 100 slurs blossom" comrades?
lol
Well in my defense it's modern compared to the fuckin clusterfuck HTML pages of marxists.org lmao
Why are you shitting on jquery and bootstrap?
Because building a site around the two is far from "modern". Maybe 10 years ago it was, but not now.
At this point there's not much good reason to use jQuery (and especially jQuery UI, which the site also seems to be using) over either vanilla ES6+ or an actual framework.
And Bootstrap can be alright, if you are using one of the latest versions, but this site is using Bootstrap 3 (for reference the latest is 5 and the transition from 3 to 4 was pretty big).
Tbf this site seems to have inherited all that from the wiki engine they chose to use, but it still chose to use that engine.
(Also at my job I work on an old-ass project that uses jQuery and Bootstrap 3 and I hate it.)
jQuery is old. No doubt. But it still serves a purpose if you have to maintain those old legacy websites. If it's using bootstrap 3 then it's old, I didn't look at the website.
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epub is just zipped html. You can save a marxist.org page as html and use a program like Calibre to automatically convert it.
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Calibre is open source, so we could just automate that process
Don't you think we should like... Change that? Get a site mirror up at the very least?
You never know what might happen.
Mirror it yourself, it's only 50 gigs (~750 gigs with pdfs) . They have the wget command on the FAQ page along with several already existing mirrors. They used to sell hard drives too so there's plenty of copies of it out there
A mirror on the hexbear domain can allow hexbear users to use the links, which would provide hexbear advertising.
theory.hexbear.net when?
Wasn't there an emote with the entire text of the communist manifesto somewhere or did I just imagine that?
Idk I've never seen it, but I'd like to
meh it’s easy to upload it again, its not like Stalin’s works will be lost if the site goes down
I’d be pretty down to help organize something. Maybe we can bug the sitemods / admins about if they would be willing to host all this on the git or something?
they dont have any documents from the CPSU from the Khrushchev era onward. They're basically impossible to find and I've only seen them hosted on sites like the Wilson Archives lol
I'd be pretty down to help organize something. Maybe we can bug the sitemods / admins about if they would be willing to host all this on the git or something?
Sorry I made a typo , i meant the Soviet Union Communist party, not the American party. Here's one example of documents specifically in regards to the Soviet Invasion of Czechoslovakia and the CPSU arguments/justifications for why they had to stop the counter-revolutionary uprising. https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/collection/77/soviet-invasion-of-czechoslovakia If you can find other documents or events from the website that would be wonderful
Edit: https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/collection/9/1956-polish-and-hungarian-crises Heres another about Poland and Hungary