It seems like they'd start to wonder if maybe their opinions are silly when they realize how many lgbt+ MLs there are. And how incredibly inclusive they are. Do they think communities made up largely of lgbt+ people and openly, whole-heartedly supportive of lgbt+ people secretly hate the gays and want to throw them in gulags? How can these opinions even come to be?
One issue with anarchists is that they often wind up repeating oversimplified anti-communist propaganda when they criticize MLs. Oh, Stalin criminalized same-sex relationships? Guess that's the end of the story -- no need to examine LGBT rights under Lenin, or LGBT rights in modern-day Cuba, or to compare any of these countries to what came before or to what capitalist countries were doing at the same time. And definitely don't pay any attention to what today's American MLs have to say about LGBT rights.
Definitely shouldn't examine the role that western funding of reactionary religious organizations, during the global war on communism, played in keeping countries conservative.
I've seen them claim that LGBT MLs are as misguided as jewish white supremacists, saying that oppression of gays is an inevitable result of "authoritatianism".
To be honest, I don't think people generally respect this kind of "argument from representation and support within community" you are going for. Like 80% of anprims/anticivs on twitter are trans for some reason yet other anarchists have no qualms about calling them forest TERFs.
Regarding LGBT issues, I've seen a few point on CPGB-ML which is pretty bad on trans stuff especially, and then use it as an evidence that MLs in general are like that.
It seems like they'd start to wonder if maybe their opinions are silly when they realize how many lgbt+ MLs there are. And how incredibly inclusive they are. Do they think communities made up largely of lgbt+ people and openly, whole-heartedly supportive of lgbt+ people secretly hate the gays and want to throw them in gulags? How can these opinions even come to be?
One issue with anarchists is that they often wind up repeating oversimplified anti-communist propaganda when they criticize MLs. Oh, Stalin criminalized same-sex relationships? Guess that's the end of the story -- no need to examine LGBT rights under Lenin, or LGBT rights in modern-day Cuba, or to compare any of these countries to what came before or to what capitalist countries were doing at the same time. And definitely don't pay any attention to what today's American MLs have to say about LGBT rights.
Definitely shouldn't examine the role that western funding of reactionary religious organizations, during the global war on communism, played in keeping countries conservative.
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I've seen them claim that LGBT MLs are as misguided as jewish white supremacists, saying that oppression of gays is an inevitable result of "authoritatianism".
To be honest, I don't think people generally respect this kind of "argument from representation and support within community" you are going for. Like 80% of anprims/anticivs on twitter are trans for some reason yet other anarchists have no qualms about calling them forest TERFs.
Regarding LGBT issues, I've seen a few point on CPGB-ML which is pretty bad on trans stuff especially, and then use it as an evidence that MLs in general are like that.
Yeah CPGB-ML is trash. Britain somehow became terf central.