• LoudMuffin [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    It kind of slowly dawned on me looking at this that the reason why a lot of anti feminist types are so infuriated by "sexually unappealing women"/removed is that they genuinely believe that all women are sex objects that should be ready and willing to be FUCKED by their 12000 inch redditor dong, which is pretty disturbing

    I mean I'm a horny weirdo and even I don't think like that, which makes me realize that the headspace of the average male is probably even worse than an irony poisoned cis male ex 4channer like me, which isn't even getting into the internet right wingers who are like "women should be breeding pods"

    don't men commit like 90% of crimes or something?

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      don’t men commit like 90% of crimes or something?

      90% of violent crimes I believe, and mentioning this is a great way to troll people who are way too into racial crime statistics

      • nohaybanda [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I take it you've never talked to a MRA? Cause boy do they have this one "covered".

            • nohaybanda [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Nah. Most they deserve is contempt, maybe pity for the younger ones who've just never been shown better.

          • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            I'm going to guess that they insist it is the fault of women, i.e. crimes are committed by "unsatisfied men who just want a trad wife", and "men are more likely to be charged because they're men", and such ad infinitum

    • Tapirs10 [undecided,she/her]
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      3 years ago

      See: all of the anti-sjw people whose entire ideology was that feminists are fat and have blue hair and therefore are scary and bad. Also the whole "tradwife" nonsense

      • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        I had a high-school friend that went full crypto fash and before I quit FB would essentially rant about how he couldn't find a trad wife who agreed with him that feminism was a disease.

  • seitanicRights [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    I honestly can't tell if this is fake, because men really are like this.

    So many guys really, honestly can't shut the fuck with their bad opinions long enough even for the hook up. All you had to do was not talk about yourself for 30 minutes.

  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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    3 years ago

    Feminism is when you look like half the women I dated in college.

    I think the weird male obsession with tomboy "cool girl" characters in media that are coded extremely lesbian but inexplicably are straight because the network would absolutely not allow a gay character has been a major problem. It's almost certainly a major factor in the prevalence of incels and the continuing fetishization of lesbians into the modern era.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Expressing oneself in ways that don't align with what's expected of their gender doesn't necessarily make them gay, though, does it? I was under the impression that that sort of gender-coding was largely arbitrary.

      • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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        3 years ago

        Expression certainly doesn't necessarily make someone gay, especially not for real people. Expression is not the cause of gayness, but it does corellate with it.

        However, the significant, overwhelming majority of the "cool girl" tomboy best friend characters in media, especially in animated media, are heavily gay coded. These are the very characters that these dudes are gravitating towards as the platonic ideal of what a tomboy is and should be, resulting in them seeing gay women in real life and going "oooh tomboy!"

        Dudes refuse to accept women as human beings with their own agency and identity so hard that they fetishize an identity that by and large does not exist because it allows them to justify their refusal to go outside of their comfort zone, their refusal to acknowledge that women have different interests from them and that is okay, and that the very reason that they cannot successfully date or have sex is because they refuse to stop being a terminally 4chan-brained incel.

        Women don't want these type of petulant ass piece of shit dudes, so they have turned to media which erroneously told them "hey man, you don't have to get off your sweaty ass or stop saying the n-word, there's women out there who will love you for you! Watch for them dude, they look and act just like lesbians, but they're not! They really really want you to fuck them!"

        And uh, yeah, no, turns out that doesn't exist, and they just end up harassing lesbians.

        • BeamBrain [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Gotcha. Thanks for taking the time to give such an in-depth clarification.

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    1 year ago

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  • Barabas [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    "Lad culture". What a terrible time to be growing up.

    Took a long time to get to terms with my sexuality after being exposed to shit like this constantly and feeling dirty because of it. At least I wasn't on the receiving end.

      • Barabas [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Not sure if it was exactly the same. A combination of internalizing the lad culture view of masculinity as what I actually was and being utterly repulsed by it led me to be incredibly repressed. I know that there were people who were very obviously interested in me, but I wouldn't be able to reciprocate on flirting, let alone initiate, or anything like that unless I was shitfaced. And I'd start distancing myself as soon as I got sober.

        Have managed to mostly work through it at least, but I still get bouts of self loathing.

  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    So looking this up, it's from Maxim in 2003. So they were doing this as a joke, but on the side of men and not feminism. So yeah, this is some deranged shit.

      • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        It's a rather odd way of referring to cunnilingus

        Which doesn't seem like the end goal of someone trying to convert a feminist into a trad-wife for sex

  • furryanarchy [comrade/them,they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I don't get why men would ever want women to act like that. It sounds stressful to deal with, and you would never be able to be in more than an extremely shallow pretend relationship with someone with those kinds of expectations.