Lmao just realised I misspelled the first -geoisie

  • a_jug_of_marx_piss [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Actually they are only pronounced 'bore-geosie' after they enter earth's atmosphere and begin to burn up, before that they are pronounced 'boo-goesie'.

  • Amorphous [any]
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    4 years ago

    i propose we pronounce them dead, as a compromise

  • gayhobbes [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    No joking around I've noticed the difference in pronunciation is fairly racially divided, a lot of Black folk I know say it the latter way.

    This is my long way around of telling you that you're a racist.

    • glimmer_twin [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Really? I definitely haven’t noticed that. Honestly this whole post was me just shitposting because I heard Breht and Alyson say it that way on the latest red menace

      • gayhobbes [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah, I also hear them say bourgie more than bougie.

        Also as a French speaker eat my entire ass, it's buʁ.ʒwa.zi

        • glimmer_twin [he/him]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          I think if the emphasis is on the “sie” and the first two syllables come out quickly, a sort of “boosh” is fine. As you would know, French language has that nice flow to it. Im talking about when the first syllable is emphasised as BOO-geoisie.

          Not that I ever thought I’d spend multiple paragraphs describing my thoughts on this issue haha, or that my thoughts on this issue matter at all.

          • gayhobbes [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            So I'm going to ruin your entire life, but English is the only language that I know of that attempts to preserve pronunciation of words from other languages. Every other language I know of at least attempts to assimilate them in some way and that's an expected consequence since there are sometimes incompatible vowel sounds. You should pronounce it like you would in English rather than a French person would because if you saw my IPA type out there, we don't really have a couple of those sounds in English.

            • glimmer_twin [he/him]
              hexagon
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              4 years ago

              Hmm, that’s interesting. English really is a shitshow huh.

            • russianattack [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              ive always thought it was strange what words they decide to pronounce in the other language. like i've heard a newscaster say "tour de france" like he's mimicking a french person then 5 minutes later when he's not talking about that event pronounce France like an American would

    • glimmer_twin [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Weirdly enough I’m fine with “boojee” as like, a descriptor. “Oh you go to brunch? Sounds boojee”. But hearing “boo-shwazee” is another matter lol. I recently noticed Breht O’Shea says it that way, I’ll have to deal with it because RevLeft and Red Menace are too good

      • MarxGuns [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        When he had the appalachia guy on and he pronounced bourgeoisie with the accent and the r, it was grating on the ears until I realized that it is more correct. Now I can't get it out of my head and I try to say it like him.

      • BreadPrices [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        I used to pronounce it the same way, but now I've completely switched to calling all instances of bourgeoisie/bourgeois bougie. It's probably not correct, but it's a silly word anyways

    • glimmer_twin [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      It isn’t pronounced boo-shwah in French or English tho

      https://youtu.be/HDkxi4CWfyU

      • CoralMarks [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It's more like boor-shwah. Not bore-shwah, because that would imply the o be short, which it isn't imo.

          • CoralMarks [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            I mean we could just drop the term and use something simple like rich fucks, fatcats, or 1%.
            Something like that, where no 2hr lesson is necessary for the average joe to get what you're saying.

            • Amorphous [any]
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              4 years ago

              Something like that, where no 2hr lesson is necessary for the average joe to get what you’re saying.

              I do try to avoid jargon, but it really is not difficult to explain the term "bourgeoisie" or "bourgeois" to people. You can just say "oh yeah sorry im talking about rich assholes"

              • MarxGuns [comrade/them]
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                4 years ago

                I try not to use it because I think it'd give up the ghost for some people, who you'd scare away or enrage if you used the jargon. It's almost, but not quite, the same as people saying 'Das Kapital' instead of 'Capital'.

        • gayhobbes [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          In French bourgeoisie is pronounced with three syllables.