https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1473503588643217412
He actually did consider it, but sadly died before he could write Capital volume 4, which would have been all about the yiff economy
If nobody would do fanart except through market coercion, then your fandom is a problem.
However, from observation it seems furries are entirely willing to make fanart irrespective of market incentives.
Yah that's such a weird scene to take as an example here. Quality might suffer, but I doubt there would be any kind of decline. Quite the opposite, since furries had more time on their hands to follow their passion
Under communism, there is no independent work like commission artists. Jobs like carpenters and independent plumbers literally not exist, because everything, every single action and transaction of labor is commanded by central planing. There is also no comerce, literally nobody can actually sell nor buy anything. It is illegal. Nobody can have a small orchard and sell you their overproduction of lettuce or whatever, because the Stasi-NKVD will hunt you down like a dog if you try; according exactly to what Vladimir Marx wrote.
Absolutely.
Oh why yes, I do learned what communism is in reddit, how did you know?
How exactly would independent (for-profit) work be in a free society?
Depends on what type of society we're talking here. Under a socialist society on its way to full communism, independent for-profit work would be fine, since the only person you're "exploiting" for that labor would be yourself. You'd own your own means of production, and derive the benefits of your work. The market would still exist, money still exist, etc. Under communism (in the definitional sense) all classes fall away, there is total abundance, and money is no longer necessary. So ideally you'd just make shit you want to make if you want to, and would give it to whoever you wanted just because.
Gotta be honest with you, I really can't imagine what "final stage" communism would look like, cuz it sounds really detached from anything I can understand. But the big socialist "meantime", that I can understand and imagine.
I mean Marx and Lenin et al would agree with that. There's a reason Marx writes very little about what communism would actually look like, so it's so far removed from our daily experience that we can only build the path to get there. It's up to future generations to actually decide what it really looks like. The closest we get in his writing is the following, which sounds pretty great tbh.
...while in communist society, where nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic.
Never reading theory and understanding it anyways 😎
Now, really
nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes,
I don't know what they were getting at but logistically, in a lot of fields and positions, job specialization and staying at them for quite a long time is a given.
Yeah job specialization is actually one of the "secret sauces" that Marx identifies as allowing capital to be so productive under capitalism so it totally going away isn't likely, but I think (and again all speculation here) he's getting at is that you don't have to be just a hunter or a fisherman or whatever. That your means of livelihood is not tied to just being that one thing, and you can do many things. You don't have to spend 40 or 100 hours a week being a garbage guy under threat of starvation. The beginning of the quote I posted above kind of supports this.
For as soon as the distribution of labour comes into being, each man has a particular, exclusive sphere of activity, which is forced upon him and from which he cannot escape. He is a hunter, a fisherman, a herdsman, or a critical critic, and must remain so if he does not want to lose his means of livelihood; while in communist society, where nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic.
You own your means of production, you get payed for your labor. Now who puts the price on your labor? That is up to some discussion, depending on the case unions, governments, or maybe just "the market" basically y'all just charge what you want and people might choose you or not.
If you work in something like plumbing, I'll go for unions or "the market". If you are an artist, just charge whatever you want.
People keep coming to revolutionary worker's tribunal meetings to ask me if they'll be allowed to fuck the bunny cop once we push the communism button. Buddy, they won't even let me fuck the bunny cop.
We just going to have a department of yiff or something?
Sure, why the hell not? :shrug-outta-hecks:
If furry art is the downfall of a government, it wasn't a good government
-Lenin
I think people will have more time to concentrate on passions and hobbies like drawing and trading weird sex art because their basic necessities would be cared for.
Imagine all the would-be furry artists who are stuck working multiple retail jobs and can never muster the energy to create their works
I'd rather not tbh but I do understand that this is one of the many injustices I'm fighting to right. Furry liberation now!
This is probably a joke but:
Isn't the majority or furry art like... people doing it for free on deviant art for fun?
I imagine without the need to charge commissions there more furry art, if anything.
Have you been lately? DA is heftily commodified these days even doubling down on nfts :cringe:
Isn't that system for the opposite thing? It's supposed to notify artists if someone turned their art into an NFT.
People right now draw art for fucking free
People right now are drawing weird furry shit for free
Does this guy seriously assume every piece of art is comissioned...?
I am so confused has this person literally never interacted with the furry community at all
They could just draw things as thank yous or as suggestions, then?
Don't be silly, if there wasn't money to pay for people to do things everyone would just lie in bed all day
The final form of scarcity will be human attention. Eventually the market value of art will invert, and economy will consist of people paying each other to play their indie game, listen to their podcast, or look at their furry porn.
My NFT goes up in value every time you jack it to my dragon smut.
