• UlyssesT
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    18 days ago

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    • D3FNC [any]
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      3 years ago

      I've absolutely seen farmers on the border complain about their crops rotting in the field due to lack of workers in the same breath as illegal immigration being out of control.

      • CrimsonSage [any]
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        3 years ago

        Like this is what happened in South Carolina, or was it Georgia, they elected a hard Republican state Legislature and passed a strict ID for employment law that prevented all the orchards from hiring 'illegal' migrant workers. They lost like a whole seasons crop because of it and those landowning shitheads are largely the GOP base. So yeah I don't think a ton of them think too hard about it.

  • aaro [they/them, she/her]
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    3 years ago

    They don't. It'll be similar to Brexit, where they campaign super hard for it and then when they actually get what they want, they'll meet the reality they made for themselves somewhere between "this isn't the Brexit I asked for :powercry-2:" and "the left did this, bring my tiki torch and my AR-15"

  • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    They don't, its a contradiction

    the astute ones might envision resolving it thru eroding domestic workers rights to the same level as migrants, but i doubt many are thinking that far ahead

      • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        i suppose i wasn't thinking only of petit-bourgeois as the question asked. petitboug are thinking that

        but worker sorts yelling the same slogans certainly do not realise they're next on the chopping block

  • comi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    What? Threat of ice detention is good to drive down wages, try to complain then as a worker.

  • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    They just start crying about it until politicians pass laws that force more domestic workers to work for low/slavery wages. The recent "inflation!!!" thing was a small first taste of this, IMO.

  • Fundle [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    If you keep migrant laborers scared of being detained it is much easier to abuse and exploit them.

  • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    If you mean how they mentally reconcile, then there's not really any need for them to do so as Americans and westerners generally don't have consistent ideologies. Not that that's automatically a bad thing, you can have a consistently evil ideology, but it means that the problems (and solutions) don't weave into a wider narrative or critique of a system. It's just whack-a-mole without seeing the underground mole tunnels.

  • jabrd [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Being petty bourgeois they genuinely have a closer connection to the working class than the transnationalist bourgeoisie. Their xenophobia comes from a place of trying to protect the local community in a way that would genuinely protect them but that is wholly insufficient because it is not genuine community power, it is exclusionary though radical reaction (hence their failure to stop NAFTA because the type of protection that they would benefit from is insufficient to combat the contradictions of liberalism). Their :brainworms: about the protection of their local community in a fascist way conflicting with their need for cheap foreign labor is a contradiction of capitalism and the petty bourgeois do not have the revolutionary potential to address it. This lack of revolutionary potential fuels the death drive in the petty bourgeois and is the source of the fascist ideology

    In the inverse the true bourgeois support a ‘liberal’ open borders strategy that provides cheap labor on conditions that benefit their donors’ specific forms. This contradiction between the common forms of capital personified is the only political question still being debated in the US political system, though truly you have no democratic recourse to influence it yourself. And of course the true solution is not allowed on the multiple choice quiz :hammer-sickle:

    • JuneFall [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I also like that when you play risk and there emerges a strong power one could just put enough troops at your border so that it is more easy for the imperial hegemon to attack someone else first so that you live longer, even though teaming up on the hegemon would be the way to bring them down to your level again.

      Fascists view local successes ie concentrating migrants and asylum seekers in camps as win - the cruelty is the point - even if it doesn't change the system dynamics and will come to haunt them sooner or later when they themselves are interned in the climate wars by an imperial power (at worst) or the revolutionary troops (at best).

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I didn't think Leopards would eat my undocumented labor force!

    They don't. They never made the connection between illegal immigration and cheap labor. They're not clever people.

  • discontinuuity [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    American farmers have been known to hire undocumented workers and then get them deported right before payday.