• DeathToBritain [she/her,they/them]
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    2 years ago

    they invaded Georgia in 2008 over less :shrug-outta-hecks:. nothing quite rallies a population like a war, which would sure up Putin's popularity for sure

    • Invidiarum [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      I wouldn't frame the deliberately stoked ethnic tensions against the ossetians quite that way (from the georgian government).

      I'm not so sure about the latter part, the annexation of crimea seems to have been very popular in russia, but the involvement in eastern ukraine hasn't necessarily been. Recent polling suggests that a war with ukraine is not really popular in russia.

      But ... that doesn't mean Putin won't try

      • DeathToBritain [she/her,they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Russia is not some great defender of nations who had a bleeding heart for the struggle of the Ossetians, look at their own war in nearby breakaway Chechnya. they sweeped into Ossetia as a way to kneecap NATO who was getting friendly with Georgia, much like the obvious idea with Ukraine, which is pretty flimsy but goes along well geopolitically suring up the Russian flanks from NATO missile bases, and plays well back home with nationalists. idfk what he's gonna do in Ukraine is the gods honest truth, the annexation of Crimea really spooked the west and I'd have thought a direct attack on Ukraine would be too open a war not to drag in Europe

        • Invidiarum [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Russia is not some great defender of nations

          Yeah no, you're absolutely right about this. They did the right probably lesser evil thing for different reasons.

        • Invidiarum [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          I don't claim that's beyond what Putin would do in regards to ukraine. Deliberately starting an unpopular war, then doing a false flag to rally your population around the war still seems like a weird strategy. The putin clique is quite entrenched in power and there is no unified opposition, so ... they're not that desperate in regards to their domestic situation. So looking at this as a measure to prop up domestic support seems a bit flawed

          • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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            2 years ago

            Deliberately starting an unpopular war, then doing a false flag to rally your population around the war still seems like a weird strategy

            Projection is the name of the game when dealing with the West. The UK and US want to do this exact thing in order to distract the population at home with a war. Russia is largely just responding to aggression from NATO who has been deliberately trying to isolate them and make the 90s Yeltsin chaos permanent.