Got an email through my school. Basically I could finish out my degree and they'd train me to be a pilot. I would make $60k a year.
Is this BS? Also, would this be like the worst decision of my life? I don't wanna end up fighting for Israeli genocide or Ukraine.
RN I'm studying spanish in guatemala and traveling south america a bit. I've gotten some pressure to consider it. I wanted to hear from y'all because I don't wanna hear a bunch of biased BS.
This isn't a shitpost, and I'm probably not going to do it. Was wondering if anyone in here was in a similar spot.
My gut instinct is that they're telling lies about the pays/opportunities.
Thoughts?
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Hey, I was in the Navy. They dangle being a pilot in front of people as a classic bait-and-switch. If you have any vision problems whatsoever, if you have any mental health issues, if you have any physical health issues that you don’t even know about, you will be disqualified and assigned the least desirable duties available.
Recruiters lie like a fish swims through water. Ship life sucks shit, subs don’t see the sun or visit any “fun” foreign ports, some air bases are nice but most are in the middle of nowhere.
Ask me any questions about it. My background was enlisted on a surface ship, air defense.
Basically I could finish out my degree and they'd train me to be a pilot. I would make $60k a year.
All three of these things will be lies. So many people are told they'll get a cushy gig in the chair force, in a non-combat role, or that they won't even have to leave the US. They're told they'll get a living wage as a commissioned officer.
It. Never. Happens.
What they don't tell you is that even if they do actually bring you on as a commissioned officer is that it'll likely actually take a couple of years of service and at least a couple promotions before you'll get to $60,000 a year. If you end up enlisted which is what happens to most recruits, it's gonna take you 6-8 promotions and 4 full years of service before you're anywhere close to that $60k figure. You'll be making under $35k for at least 3 years before racking up enough promotions. Sure, they'll tell you that you'll be a commissioned officer for having completed college, but they a lot of lies.
I have multiple American family members and family friends who got duped like this, and only one of them who is a doctor actually got the degree, the non-combat role, the cushy stationings in Europe and the US. He's also 59.
Every single person younger than him got nothing but lies and not a single one of them has ever had a single year anywhere close to $60,000 even since leaving the military into theoretically solid jobs in their fields.
i'm acquainted with a guy that operates the nuclear reactor on a sub. he's the most compulsively reactionary person i've ever met in my life
Did a few years when I was a lib kid. The recruiters lie through their teeth and promise the world, but can't really guarantee anything. Even things in writing can be contingent on your performance so that it's very rare for someone to win a breach of contract. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.
Hexbear is going to be extremely biased as everybody here is extremely anti-US military and almost nobody here has ever served so they wouldn't know about the pay or opportunities
Ask people who actually know what it's like inside, like on reddit @ r/army or r/navy
Nobody here knows if you'd end up assisting Israeli genocide, providing intelligence for Ukraine, shooting at China in the Pacific, or invading Iran from the Persian Gulf
Nobody here knows if you'd end up assisting Israeli genocide, providing intelligence for Ukraine, shooting at China in the Pacific, or invading Iran from the Persian Gulf
Isn't that the rub? That nobody knows what the military will assign people to or where they were put them in the world and nobody can know the future.
Imagine you enlisted last year and right now you are on warship sent by Biden to the Eastern Med. It's anchored to menace Hezbollah and shore up Israel - bad pun intended. If your job is maintenance and your ship doesn't end up killing anybody directly - I guess you could make a moral argument that you have no reason to feel guilty about anything. But you're still a cog - no matter how small - of the American war machine. And your ship certainly is indirectly causing death, pain, and suffering in Gaza (and the West Bank) simply due to its presence. It's yet another thing that makes the Israelis feel like untouchable supermen.
I know I'd never want to be on that ship.
Or projecting American power against China, or DPRK, or in a nuclear sub patrolling God knows what.
Unless you're doing it as a last resort in your life, knowing what you know by being a leftist here on Hexbear, there really is no moral way to serve in the US military.
Even in the "best" case scenario, you're flying a plane to drop bombs on enemies of the US. Fuck that.
Nobody here knows if you'd end up assisting Israeli genocide, providing intelligence for Ukraine, shooting at China in the Pacific, or invading Iran from the Persian Gulf
or all of the above, or roll again
Joining an imperialist military is immoral regardless of what they end up having you do. Pay and opportunities don’t matter.
Enlisting should be your last resort. I would suggest a trade school or a college degree, depending on your available means.
