This shit just infuriates me. Just pure debate-bro idealism. You don't need to fucking go to the first principles and ground your axioms for every fucking issue. Sometimes, you can just agree that racism = bad. Like, no, fuck off, no one has to explain to you why racism is bad. Fuck off. Why do you think racism is bad?

  • Ecoleo [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    As soon as Vaush asked "why is that bad?" dude should have just left the stream. At that point you are way past any good-faith discussion, although you really should have known better before entering a debate with fucking vaush in the first place.

    • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I am glad they left the stream when they did though. Busting out the Jewish banking bullshit was a perfect illustration of why you shouldn't engage with these chuds.

      • Ecoleo [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I didn't watch the full stream, did he really go there? How on Earth does this guy call himself left-wing?

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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          3 years ago

          How on Earth does this guy call himself left-wing?

          The nazis at one point presented themselves as left-wing to gain support.

          • I_Have_IBS [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            This. Fascists adopt leftist aesthetics to co-opt working class resentment against the wealthy.

        • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          He is very far left by the standards of beverly hills in which he grew up

        • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Go to https://youtu.be/sQUU7gbzVbM 1:16:00 and a little before to see how the debate ends

          • CyberMao [it/its]
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            3 years ago

            So he was trying to get EJ to walk into a some gotcha about utilitarianism like this is some goddamn debate with one of his Discord kiddies. He was complaining about you harassing his wife you dense fuck. But then again if Ian admits that not every conversation needs to be framed as a utilitarian philosophical jerkoff session, his entire brand collapses. Fuck this guy.

    • ZachWilsonGOAT [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      i'm shocked that NonCompete even entertained him after that. what a fucking disgusting piece of shit honestly. Vaush should try doing shit like this in public, see how many teeth he's got left by the end of his fun little debate.