hyper paradisiac communism : which is a democracy of rights with collectivist values and very small command economy to make sure everything is okay physically and mentally for everyone
or
free market collectivism : which is a democratic movement that hypes the free market with collectivist values (you do wathever you want democratically as long as you are a collectivist)
First one, free markets don’t work
Also, “free market collectivism“ sounds like AnCap shit :ancap-good:
what would you do if you lived in a hyper paradisiac communism country?
idk probably the same shit I do now, but with less suffering.
Work, help build shit, hang with friends, get wine drunk off cheap rosé, volunteer in my neighborhood, etc
I don’t mind labour if what I’m doing is socially beneficial, I just want to not be starving to death and impoverished.
I don't like systems that impoverish people, because in my dream state you would see the power of the internet an hyper paradisiac communist technology save people from starvation , also you could vote on the decisions of the communist government so that everyone is happy with the economic decision voted by the people's hyper paradisiac party that takes your power to vote and have rights and gives you the opportunity to vote all the time and decide the collectivist party that own your country for 5 years and the population decides almost every decision in the country that is : where do we put the bridge (A or B), library or hockey center, where is the loomball project gona take place, etc. politiciant will have polyvalent abilities with communist requirement + the collectivist ideas of you choice you want to do during your term.
All forms of communist society will emerge and develop through historically specific determinate processes. Attempting to predict and predetermine the structure and constitution of such organizations is a sign of utopian socialism, naive at best and reactionary at worst. While speculating on proper government and state procedures can be useful in small amounts, such practices should be limited to actual interparty discussions.
That being said, it's difficult to say if talking about tweets is anymore useful. But at least tweets are real things that people are doing and saying.
Nice, I've been trying to find the words for this for a minute now. Thanks. Excellent posting comrade.
Thanks, but it's just a fancy way of saying that you can't really predict the future that far out, so it is of little use to seriously discuss it. A better use of time is to study currently existing political dynamics and forces and attempt to understand how those interact. Still an incredibly challenging task, but at least somewhat relating to the real.
Fair, but again, outside proper contexts, it is naive. Applied political processes , developments and definitions are, unfortunately, emergent phenomena.
btw i really dont like Ancap 's all capitalists are derived from Slavery, Money-Mongering and Prejudices towards all beings
i'm not a free market guy but i love people who are though as long as they are not capitalists
my version of collectivism is totally anti-cap and includes the desire to get rid of the capitalist doctrine for good.
collectivism is ethical , capitalism is not
collectivism is selfless, capitalism is not
collectivism redistributes wealth all the time between employees and no one as the money for themselves so no boss having much more money than employees (basically the boss is just a normal boss not a bank) , capitalism doesn't
i am personally an hyper-paradisiac communist but i wanted to know if there is a version of free markets that is collectivist ( idk, we can do wathever we want in group and all people are created equal in the eyes of the law so dont get your fuss you gonna vote even if your a fellon and wathever, a bum on the street i do not jusdge anyone)
If recommend you actually read some political theory and stop playing with hypotheticals. This type of thinking is very un materialist.
Political revolution isn't a commodity, it's not an idea to be enforced on the people, it's the gradual revealing of democracy that will take whatever form is necessary to survive.
