It’s all allegations, they never even confirmed any cultural genocide taking place in China. Why doesn’t the US just send a NATO rep to investigate and confirm or deny any events taking place?

Oh right, western propaganda

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    3 years ago

    Apparently people are yelling about cultural appropriation cause an ethnic-Korean Chinese woman wore a traditional Korean dress during the opening ceremony, when its one of the official recognized ethnic minority groups of China?

    Its all just heads I win tails you lose scenarios, if China doesn't feature any ethnic minorities thats an example of Han supremacy, if they do feature them then that is hiding the Han supremacist policies and trying to trick the world. If Mao is not featured thats an example of Xi Jinpings hubris in stating that he is greater than Mao, if Mao were to be featured then that is Xi pandering and trying to hide the fascist-totalitarian nature of his regime etc.

    Insert Parenti quote about the USSR here, he had a good one about this.

    • Oso_Rojo [he/him, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence.

      If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime's atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn't go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.

      If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.

    • Vncredleader
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      3 years ago

      I am so fucking pissed at how liberal IdPol is used to just crush and erase any actual cultural diversity and material existence. They not only become tools in culture wars, but also their very existence becomes rejected if it does not fit the basic knowledge of some liberal. They cannot look anything up, and they openly reject actual cultural diversity. Like Koreans must be a monadic grouping and cannot exist beyond a certain classification of what we deem is "Korean".

      Here is the Internationale in Yanbian Korean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCaCjZ1NwdU

    • Judge_Juche [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I haven't followed the Winter Olympics stuff becuase its all fake white people sports, but did Mao show up in the opening ceremony?

      Like the 2008 opening ceremony very intentionally didn't have any communist symbols or figures, like modern China really didn't feature at all and it was all about ancient Chinese history.

      It would be very based if they made all the world dignitaries sit and quietly listen to four hours of Mao quotes and red songs while performers act out fighting imperialist, the Long March and executing landlords.

      • SaniFlush [any, any]
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        3 years ago

        The thing about it being “white people sports” is pervasive enough that I genuinely don’t know what a non-Anglo winter sport would even be.

        • Judge_Juche [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          China has a huge ice sculpture festival every year. I think Japan also has something similar. They should just turn the Winter Olympics into an ice sculpture contest, it would be way more fun than watching boring ass winter sports no one cares about.

          • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            huge amounts of "wypipo stuff" come from POC cultures, and have just been force memed long enough to trick everyone into thinking that whites invented it

            the oldest known saffron use comes from Iran, not Spain

            Arabic numerals come from India (and are termed 'Arabic' because that's where euros got them from)

            • Kresimir [they/them]
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              3 years ago

              I belive hockey was invented by indigenous people in what is now :kkkanada:

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        3 years ago

        I didn't care to watch the opening but in the Swedish papers they unironically had the take that the omission of Mao is a statement by Xi that hes superior to Mao.

        • Judge_Juche [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Lol extremely dumb take but also correct. They should have made the whole thing about Mao.

    • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I've met Korean Chinese from Manchuria before, apparently many ethnic Koreans live there. They were fluent in both Standard Chinese and Korean (and were learning English). Very nice folks!