please just stop accepting debate requests i don't care if you're hakim or noah samsen you will not outdebate a debatebro, even if you're right, that's their realm

  • WhyEssEff [she/her]
    hexagon
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    3 years ago

    mf seriously went "stop watching debate content" then went on vaush to facilitate the creation of debate content

    • SuperNovaCouchGuy [any]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah "political" youtube is basically tiger king at this point, theyre all small business owners fighting to compete in this "marketplace of ideas", its just entertainment, manipulation, lies and cults of personality.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Watch LOGIC round up HYSTERICAL SJWS and shoot them in the back of the head with FACTS and bury them in a shallow mass grave of REASON. :gun-shapiro:

      • ValiumAnarchist [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah “political” youtube is basically tiger king at this point

        You have just lathed a video essay into existence. I hope you're happy.

  • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    To outdebate a debatebro you must become one, then amass a sufficient arsenal of zingers so that you can rise above, simultaneously not taking them seriously and yet schooling them at the same time.

    You must also understand that the purpose of the debate is to make the other person look like shit and for you to look competent and winning. Being right isn't even a primary concern, it's just a weapon. It's a propaganda performance.

  • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    He would have been infinitely cooler by just saying 'fuck you nerd' when asked to debate. They're just performative bullshit. You're not liking the ideas. You're liking the person.

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    3 years ago

    "why yes i will do a politics debate on twitch dot com with you....... wait wtf why is this discursive mode given so much attention by self-described political internet users??"

  • wantonviolins [they/them]M
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    3 years ago

    I don't know who any of these people are except :funny-clown-hammer: and the only reason I know him is because of this website.

    I refuse to use youtube like a normal person. yt-dlp+mpv for me. I will not be recommended anything, thank you.

  • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    The only honorable thing to do isnto accept every debate then just clown on the guy.

    Just non stop gulag memes untill vausg rage quits

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      The only honorable thing to do is to accept every debate then just clown on the guy not show up.

      Or just show up on the Zoom chat sorta half paying attention while porn plays in the background.

  • Omega_Haxors [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    What we need is to unionize every single person who had the misfortune of getting involved in this shit.

  • Judge_Juche [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Dan Bessner apparently did a debate with Vaush and I cannot express how dissapointed in him and Derek for not stopping him.

  • frick [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    while you were reading theory i was studying the gish gallop

    • SuperNovaCouchGuy [any]
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      3 years ago

      he's a smug cracker radlib small business owner piece of shit thats what he is

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        I've spoken to Noah and he's pretty nice, doesn't reject MLs either, listens and learns well...

        But you're right that this is about growth of the brand and followers more than anything actually good. The emtore twitch/youtube ecosystem funnels people into obsession over metrics. That's not to say that metrics aren't important, growth is good when it's good growth, but the tunnel vision it creates in a lot of people drives them into becoming consumed by the system.

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    3 years ago

    There's two ways to win the "Debate" game.

    • Find someone higher-profile than yourself, and "Debate" to garner a higher profile with more clout

    • Find someone you can dunk on, and "Debate" to create self-promoting content.

    These folks are all just feeding on each other in an endlessly ravenous ouroboros of clout chasing. They won't stop because the goal isn't to "win" the debate. You're just raising your own profile while churning out more slop for the hogs.