https://twitter.com/AceMarxist/status/1753552931369140366

  • mkultrawide [any]
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    90
    5 months ago

    US Embassy officials have admitted to providing Suharto with lists of Communists who were rounded up and executed. Like, that's on Wikipedia.

    • @BovineUniversity
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      38
      5 months ago

      They provided lists for awareness. Who could've known the Indonesians would act completely independently to murder them?

  • @lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml
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    5 months ago

    The fact that this book only got praise by the US intelligencia for being completely factual yet most liberals straight up ignore absolutely everything it says is very telling about why straight up censorship is less effective than bourgeois control painted in fake freedom

    • @Justice@lemmygrad.ml
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      44
      5 months ago

      It was also written about something that happened so long ago liberals will go "ok, yeah, but that was back then."

      if you talk about the CIA kidnapping torturing and murdering civilians and otherwise "not convicted of crimes" people they'll usually just outright deny it. if you bring up Guantanamo or Abu Ghraib and the CIA and US military crimes committed you might get a mix of "ok that was 20 years ago" and still others "that's unproven."

      Btw I always gotta mention because the press totally buried this story and we never got much more juice due to the nature of it

      but Abu Ghraib was very obviously being used as a CIA torture site and then any resulting bodies of victims were easily "laundered" (or "ghosted" as the CIA called it) in with prisoner deaths and such. The media focused heavily on the sensational aspects such as the gross sexual acts comitted by the soldiers. Which was definitely worthy of covering, obviously.

      They mostly ignored or mentioned only in passing that one of the photos was of a dead body which had begun decompossing in the prison (his name was Manadel al-Jamadi). The body showed obvious signs of torture like cuts, burns, bruised face and was brought there, according to the soldiers, from like a hut or whatever that was outside of the prison but on the same grounds. It was a well known CIA post of sorts by the soldiers who had to remain distant from it. Many of them reported men being taken there and never coming back. And reported these bodies showing up in the piles of other bodies from prisoners dying from other causes.

      No one ever properly investigated the CIA for what is totally known to be at least one clear and obvious torture/murder with a ton of evidence from the photo to the journalist and soliders at the prison. A small amount of pressure and digging would've uncovered these tapes the CIA said it had of torture session and then claimed to have destroyed (I'm pressing X to doubt. that shit exists somewhere). But the media stopped pressuring when Obama was in and nothing came of it ultimately. The low level soliders got small sentences probably mostly for embarrassing tbe CIA not for any torture and crimes they comitted. Their entire job WAS to torture after all...

      fucking libs

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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        18
        5 months ago

        The fact it happens on Cuban land pisses me off the most. These coward fucks need to soothe their soulless husks at night so they illegally occupy someone’s land and legally become serial killers, so nothing bad is happening! Otherwise the courts would’ve demanded us to stop!

  • goose [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    Saying """""slaughter""""" in the smarmiest, most sarcastic voice I can muster, rolling my eyes and doing air quotes with my fingers

  • RION [she/her]
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    54
    5 months ago

    Donald Trump did not commit insurrection at the capital. He was, however, aware of the "riot" by the angry mob he had encouraged to reject the results of the 2020 election.

    Source: Fox News

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    The scare quotes around slaughter are the icing on the cake

  • Adkml [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    Those community notes went to shit in like 48 hours it's hilarious to see libs treat them like gospel still

    Actually I guess they're basically snopes

    • Cromalin [she/her]
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      5 months ago

      tbf some of them are very funny and good. not this one though

  • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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    5 months ago

    The ones who came to power afterwards were suspiciously pro US I wonder why. "East Timor Henry Kissinger"

  • GaveUp [she/her]
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    39
    5 months ago

    This shit and wikipedia is literally just the blind leading the blind

  • davel [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    All corporate social media “communities” are fedposting

  • Barabas [he/him]
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    17
    5 months ago

    Saw the lib posting about the pro-Palestine sentiment being entirely based on that all of Indonesia are evil far right islamists and history had nothing to do with this in response.