The video is from 94, back when people didn't understand that you had to practice fighting to be good at fighting. Truly this is only a few decades after people discovered that you had to exercise to be good at sports at all, so you can't really blame the guy for thinking that you just had to be big and strong to win a fight

  • Eris235 [undecided]
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    3 years ago

    Always interesting to see the builds of top athletes, like those pics of Olympic athletes by sport that go around. Almost none actually look like bodybuilders.

    Most interesting to me tbh are 'strongmen'; and how they honestly look fat, if also sturdy. Like, these are actually the strongest people in the world, but media has influenced us to think strong=bulging, cut muscles, with as low of body fat as possible, and that barrel-chested look now looks fat to most people.

    I think its well talked over at this point how 'strong' actors have to be pretty cruel and unhealthy to their bodies, especially regarding dehydration, to achieve that look. See some interviews with Henry Cavill or Hugh Jackman about just how dehydrated they need to be to get that 'veiny and cut' look.

    And none of that is to say that body builders aren't strong. But if you cultivate muscles to look as good as possible, it shouldn't be any surprise the people working out to be as good as possible in their sport, looks be damned, are going to perform better than you.

    • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Vice grip construction workers are often big dudes that you'd think were a bit on the heavier side, but I swear that's just how bodies work when you constantly lift and grab heavy things and eat enough calories to support it.

      Still bitter at how hard they shake hands though grr

    • jabrd [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Yea this is like when they entered Royce into UFC 1 because he was the tiniest looking of the Gracie clan so they could make a point about BJJ being the 'superior fighting system.' iirc they lied about his height and weight then too to make it more impressive when he'd win

  • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Good wresting skills do be like that. You have to be a very good fighter to beat an average wrestler for most weight classes. You know what really makes wrestling skills OP though? You can use them while you are kissing.

    • jabrd [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Locking my date’s arm into an Americana because she told me she was kinky

      • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I have found success with a very specific set of skills. Not to horny post but the butterfly sweep can really wow a date if you deploy it at the right time.

  • goblinbehavior [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    yeah sure the body builder guy couldnt win but i think i could take the karate guy easy

  • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Always fun to listen to the Dollop when they cover someone from the 1800s and there's stuff like "And then they made the asthmatic kid smoke cigars to cure his lungs!" or "Dodging was considered cowardly while boxing, you were only allowed to take the hits on your chin."

  • Ithorian [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Lol I learned this lesson hard years ago. I was weighing in at about 190lb with like 11% body fat. I'd been taking BJJ for a couple months when I had my first sparing session. The guy I was fighting maybe weighed 150lb but he'd been training for about five years. Three rounds and I didn't last more then thirty seconds in any of them.

    • luceneon [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      It’s probably the most equalising martial art, no matter how good you are at striking and how much bigger you are, if you can’t defend a submission you are probably getting beaten

      • jabrd [he/him]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        Even Anderson Silva lost to an imanari roll into a heel hook. Can’t enter the matrix if you’re on the ground

  • Trouble [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Those back muscles omg, treat me like a 250lb bodybuilder :hyperflush:

  • RowPin [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Big deal, show me the BJJ guy up against the best forklift driver.

  • OgdenTO [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Of course weight doesn't matter. But it's not skill - its height. The taller candidate always wins

    • jabrd [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      I’ve got about 1000 Stefan Struve clips that say the opposite

      • OgdenTO [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        If it appears that the shorter fighter is winning it's just camera angles and forced perspective tricking the viewer.

        • BillNyeTheCommieGuy [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          This is how they made it look like Elijah Wood killed all those orcs even though he was short. Elijah Wood is actually 7 feet tall.

        • OgdenTO [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          This is also why giraffes aren't allowed to enter UFC tournaments. They would never lose.

          • SocialistWombat [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Ever seen that pride of lions that tried to take out that giraffe and they just fucking... gave up after a while? Still think about that sometimes.