I literally don't care because the US created this entire clusterfuck when it was never our business in the first place, Russia's military wouldn't even have to be there if it wasn't for US and NATO aggression, and now you're arguing on behalf the nazi alliance funding the nazi militia instead of taking the obvious, non-brainwomed stance which is "US AND NATO OUT OF FUCKING EVERYWHERE." Amazing.
Peacekeeping with a capitalist war machine is a contradiction. It will never happen, but liberals keep falling for it.
The solution is regional peacekeeping or international peacekeeping. Not an invasion and a proxy war.
The UN has extremely limited credibility in Eastern Europe after the 90s, so international peacekeeping effectively doesn't exist and is, to be blunt, a euphemism for imperialist genocide. What does regional peacekeeping look like to you, NATO? Germany? If Germany, why shouldn't Russia be involved with those efforts?
There are a few but no one obviously wants to form a new one with Ukraine atm.
Okay, so then these defense pacts don't sound like a viable alternative to Russian intervention. I feel like I'm missing something here?
The question is whether those organizations themselves can send representatives. It has happened before in some African countries.
Which organizations? I'm confused, the eastern European defense pacts sent representatives to African countries? Were these diplomats or actual military?
The African Union uses peacekeepers from other countries in the AU when two countries are in conflict. In theory the EU could do the same but the Ukraine is not part of the EU.
So then what are you suggesting? I thought this was supposed to be an alternative to US or Russian intervention, but it doesn't sound like political reality.
I think aggressive nato was a given, this move was an acceptance of ukraine joining nato in all but name :shrux: at least according to the reasoning I gleaned from our news
Anyone cheering on Putin's blunders is only supporting a more aggressive NATO.
The solution is regional peacekeeping or international peacekeeping. Not an invasion and a proxy war.
Ah yes let me just do some light peacekeeping with this here totally impartial worldspanning imperial military:so-true:
What exactly do you think Russia's peacekeepers are going to do?
I literally don't care because the US created this entire clusterfuck when it was never our business in the first place, Russia's military wouldn't even have to be there if it wasn't for US and NATO aggression, and now you're arguing on behalf the nazi alliance funding the nazi militia instead of taking the obvious, non-brainwomed stance which is "US AND NATO OUT OF FUCKING EVERYWHERE." Amazing.
Peacekeeping with a capitalist war machine is a contradiction. It will never happen, but liberals keep falling for it.
The UN has extremely limited credibility in Eastern Europe after the 90s, so international peacekeeping effectively doesn't exist and is, to be blunt, a euphemism for imperialist genocide. What does regional peacekeeping look like to you, NATO? Germany? If Germany, why shouldn't Russia be involved with those efforts?
Mutual defense pacts among Eastern Europe are possible outside the NATO framework.
Sure, I can follow that. Do these defense pacts already exist then or are they hypothetical? If they do exist, why hasn't The Ukraine activated them?
There are a few but no one obviously wants to form a new one with Ukraine atm.
The question is whether those organizations themselves can send representatives. It has happened before in some African countries.
Okay, so then these defense pacts don't sound like a viable alternative to Russian intervention. I feel like I'm missing something here?
Which organizations? I'm confused, the eastern European defense pacts sent representatives to African countries? Were these diplomats or actual military?
The African Union uses peacekeepers from other countries in the AU when two countries are in conflict. In theory the EU could do the same but the Ukraine is not part of the EU.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_non-UN_peacekeeping_missions
So then what are you suggesting? I thought this was supposed to be an alternative to US or Russian intervention, but it doesn't sound like political reality.
How can any diplomatic solution be a political reality now? Russia has invaded.
All that is out of the window now.
I think aggressive nato was a given, this move was an acceptance of ukraine joining nato in all but name :shrux: at least according to the reasoning I gleaned from our news