There can be peace when Azov Battalion is wiped out to a man and not a moment sooner.
Azov aren't the government of Ukraine and the war in Ukraine presents real risk of nuclear war
Government of Ukraine has consistently refused to do anything to reign in Azov and is in fact supporting it alongside Canada and other NATO countries.
If four men are sitting down to dinner with a Nazi, there are five Nazis at that table.
:stalin-stressed: taking the country employing nazi mercenaries at their word of being antifascist
Ukraine is neither ruled by Azov or has the ability to project that terror group beyond its borders
Even if Russia was every bit as Neo-Nazi as Azov, then the situation would not be any different than if Fascist Italy had turned on Nazi Germany.
Let them fight.
yeah the rules of warfare have fundamentally changed to accomodate them and they mean this needs to be shut down now rather than later
maybe but wiping them out to a man is an unreasonable objective as they can recuit. Just make their treatment as a criminal group a condition of the peace
I have no doubt that at least the leadership of Azov being extradited to face trial will be one of the peace terms. Terms that would not happen without force.
i'm not morally opposed to what has happened nearly so much as I am about what will continue to happen if it isn't resolved quickly.
Let the dead bury the dead my concern is with the living
Stalin’s mistake was thinking the Germans would abide by it
This is what I meant. Making peace with Nazis and thinking that they'd somehow abide by it is folly.
no he didn't expect them to abide by it hence the intense soviet military buildup between then and when the Nazis attacked
Yeah, pity for all the non-Nazi Ukrainian workers that they had the misfortune of sharing their nation with a minority of ultranationalists, but obviously killing thousands of civilians to get a few hundred fascists is totally reasonable and not just bloodthirsty self-justification.
Wait, no, it's definitely just fucked up bloodthirsty self-justification.
You misinterpret my statement a bit. There can be no peace while Azovites exist because the Azovites will commit acts of violence and murder.
The only question is whether the violence of Azov is met with passivity or with force.
Yeah then let the ukrainian people hunt down Azov and not a foreign army who doesn't give a fuck what nazi or commie militia the guy they bomb belongs to, nah?
Big fucking assumption that the Ukrainians are even willing to do anything about Azov except give them support.
Are there examples of the people or government of Ukraine doing (I.e. not just talk) anything to stop Azov?
Big fucking assumption that the russian government gives a fuck about Azov (or nazis at all) and they don't just use it as justification to invade a la war on terror.
No mistakes, hope they will wipe them out but i'm sure they would be eager to wipe them out if they were a communist militia as well.
It doesn't matter to me who wipes out nazis as long as nazis get wiped out.
Even if the Russian military is just as fascist then fascists getting merked in fascist in-fighting is still funny as hell.
Look, hardheaded and clear-eyed materialist analysis says that if you can find 1000 fascists in any nation, then you can bomb civilians to your heart's content and Western leftists will cheer you on.
This is definitely normal and not at all a sign that Western leftists continue their long streak of having baby 🧠 regarding international politics.
Azov Battalion is current fighting insurgency-style, yeah? That could take a decade or more
God I hope this is true, and if it isn't true, I hope the rumors spread throughout the Russian military regardless.
"We are checking the news" doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the veracity of this. This looks like the same sort of fake news which has been popping up all over, so be skeptical about tweets or articles like this.
Yeah as plausible as this is, it could always be another Ukrainian psyop like the "Ghost of Kiyv"
Wikipedia: "Mykhailo Brodsky [owner of Obozrevatel] (born April 5, 1959 in Kyiv, in the Ukrainian SSR of the Soviet Union) is a Ukrainian politician, leader of the Party of Free Democrats and businessman. "
Any Russians exiled in Germany wanna take a train back to the fatherland
I really want to believe this, it could be the best possible scenario for both Russia and Ukraine.
Putin is a deep cover Leninist trying to recreate the conditions of the October Revolution!
"Brothers! Do you realize who you are shooting?" - Vakulinchuk. Maybe we'll get Battleship Potemkin 2.
There would be no internal resistance if Russia was fighting NATO. Another reason why this is bad for Putin's own interests and could lead to the end of Putin's presidency.
Hope more soldiers realize they're just pawns in an imperialist war and refuse to fight.
Here is a translated news. I'm leaning probably not real, but who knows? https://news-obozrevatel-com.translate.goog/russia/v-belgorode-5-tyis-kontraktnikov-ustroili-bunt-i-otkazalis-ehat-voevat-s-ukrainoj-eksklyuziv.htm?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
