Im dumb but not arrogant enuff to tweet, what does “Ukraine” mean?
Someone already said it but it's name is in reference to it being part of something else. That's why there is the stuff about calling Ukraine vs the Ukraine. It's just funny they're getting weird about pronunciation of the capital while the whole place's name implies "this is part of something else"
think it literally translates as "West province" or something similar. Which is also why that name has been used for different dynasties and their lands throughout China's history.
It's actually more accurate to the Ukrainian pronunciation to say "Key-iv" but that doesn't sound very different from the Russian, so people are smoothing it into "Keev" to show they're not doing it Russian style.
So also libs stumbling into dividing a nation into ethnicities along arbitrary lines.
Libs and accidentally carrying water for bad things. Name a more iconic duo
Ukrainian pronunciations
Russian pronunciationsthe second Russian example (by sohvi) is actually closest to saying Keev to my Anglo ears.
I don't think that Westerners could pronounce "hard i" in Ukrainian pronunciation, and this is the primary difference in pronunciation, compared to "usual i" in Russian pronunciation.
Yeah, the actual Ukrainian pronunciation doesn't work in English phonology. We can't do it without a bunch of practice and effort. So it's all just approximations.
The funniest thing is that closest approximation to both Ukrainian and Russian pronunciation is the same.
Turns out if we say Leningrad and Stalingrad enough times, the USSR will come back
The proper way to stand with the proletariat (who are the only ones harmed by this) is to wave the flag of the Ukraine SSR
I will always say Kiev. Not because I’m pro Russia, but because it sounds like the chicken and I think that’s funny :chicken-bop:
My parents would buy the cheap boxed chicken Kiev and I still sometimes think about it. Haven't had it in YEARS.
ummm sweetie? it's not ukraine, it's Reichskommissariat Ukraine
Expressing my solidarity against TERF Island by insisting on calling the Capitol Londres.
Just flip the Mercator map upside down and hey look it’s a happy turtle with Florida for a head
Sorry sweetie, the actually they're called kievan Rus, not ukrainians
Both "Kyiv" and "Kiev" transliterations are actually horrible. Using Polish alphabet as having the same sounds, Ukrainian transliteration is Kyjiw, Russian is Kijew, although 'e' is undergoung vowel reduction to 'almost i'.
Using the original Japanese version you can clearly hear that it's Kaiju
Idk I think I’ll go with Glenn from Piscataway, NJ on this one. Keev it is.
Chicken Kiev is now Liberty Bird
Vodka is now Tato Liquor
Borscht is now Eagle Sauce
Matroshkas are now Independence Nesting Dolls.
AKs are now America Kannons.
Bears are now Giant Freedom Racoons.
