The burden of analysis from Phillips and Rozworski (P&R) is that communist planning systems, aside from their multiple affronts to human freedom, failed at logistics, and were further handicapped by the limited computing power available in their heydays. Now we have giant corporations that rely on planning, and they are doing just fine.
How's your EfFiCiEnT MaRkEt lOgIsTiCs going, woke neoliberals? Covid was merely the 2nd SARS, and like the 4th new pandemic in the last 25 years. These disgusting redditors care more about "human freedom" (for their clearly non-human petite bourgeois Stepford Wives friends) than not killing a million people. They do not have a resilient and adaptable system that can survive a crisis like indigenous people were forced to develop. No ability to deal with real life outside their fascist spreadsheets of profit maximizing just-in-time logistics systems :Pete:
Walmart and Amazon are in large part intermediaries – they don’t manufacture the products they sell.
same praxis as these parasitic labor aristocracy who don't have real jobs :DSA:
The authors urge the replacement of hierarchy by democratic procedure: “Democracy is the beating heart of socialism.”
Libertarian socialism AKA market anarchism AKA neoliberalism
Socialism in the U.S. is back, at least as something to talk about, so chances are we are not done talking about planning either.
PMC: (soyfacing at supermarket aisles of textured soy protein slave foodstuffs) "Wow! This barcode information technology, which we built to do the holocaust, is a sign of historical progress!!! Communism imminent"
also PMC: (forced to gaslight working class people) "Soy is a meaningless slur which has nothing to do with our political economy of stealing indigenous land to plant soybeans for our cheap burger meat. There is no alternative to soy, my cows will NEVER eat bugs!!!"
We need a plan to reverse the trend of residential segregation by race.
"we need a plan" lol he said the Liz Warren line! Folks don't we love the PMC socialists at OWS and their neoliberal counterparts?
Democracy is the beating heart of socialism
I thought that was an uncontroversial statment
The whole reason people call themselves "Democratic Socialists" is because most people in the west believe that every single previous socialist experiment was an authoritarian hellscape with sham elections.
The actual reason is they cynically want to separate democracy from socialism. Making it seem like democracy and socialism aren't the same thing, even if they might say they are when you ask them.
Broke: Communism is when nobody works and there's no democracy
Woke: Communism is when nobody works and there's no democracy :bordiga-despair:
Yeah, the project of that book is to convince Americans that socialism and central planning are possible/viable. I can't really get mad at that.
Yeah it's just a demonstration of the modern feasibility of cybernetic socialism
Especially since the last third of the book is just shit-talking the USSR for seemingly no connection to the broader point, instead of using that space to more explicitly outline exactly how the walmart or amazon logistics and planning chains work. the authors kinda just say "look, walmart and amazon are big, and they are centrally planned, therefore central planning works" without taking any kind of look at those chains, which could have been interesting, informative, and relevant. instead of whining about Stalin for a hundred pages
Took me like halfway through to realize it was one of your posts
god you're such a fucking nerd, get some good material or better yet shut up
2/10 on the :jesse-wtf: scale.
Very coherent if a bit unhinged
when a capitalist says human freedom, what they mean is "the freedom of me, a human, to exploit you, a subhuman"
and the capitalist even gets their serfs to repeat it as if they would ever own capital themselves.
I swear Parenti said something about how Walmart was a planned economy in blackshirts and reds back in 1997
