Ukraine can speed run through this war by sending one of their shitty rockets over to the Poland border, say Russia did it and trigger NATO Involvement.
Fucking psychopaths
At first i wasn't worried about nato getting involved in this conflict bc a hot war between two nuclear powers seemed too insane, even for these ghouls
But now I'm starting to think maybe I was wrong
today is the stupidest day in world history, a record that will be broken... etc etc
I was hoping negotiations today between Rus and Ukraine would result in Ukraines surrender but I don’t think that will happen.
Everything so far has been an anomaly
Don't think about how many of the people conducting this war have undiagnosed long COVID symptoms or the fact that leaded gasoline was still legal when they were children.
Ukranian "volunteers" openly stationed closer and closer to NATO country borders without telling anybody, hoping that their non-existant OPSEC will attract a Russian attack and trigger NATO retaliation, right?
Honestly, I have no idea if that emote has a backstory.
I typically use it when my brain is just.... overwhelmed... from staring into the abyss for too long in one sitting.
I mean, given the shape of Ukraine and the direction of Russian forces, that just sounds like Ukrainian volunteers in retreat.
The ultimate point being to goad Poland into actually committing forces to Ukraine. One MLRS rocket overshoots and its Polish territory or a war plane gets close enough to the "border" to kick off Polish interceptors...
I can't imagine Poland wants a piece of this shit show, even if a rocket or two does come over the border.
I'm positive that few countries leadership want to sacrifice blood or treasure for this.
But just from looking at the blood lust that was instantly inspired (at least in the online and media spaces) in the USA when zero physical attacks have happened on domestic soil, how fast would that ramp up in Poland to the point that politicians would wind up being lead by the frothing masses into retaliating? (I'm keeping my fingers crossed that my brain is just too cynically doomer about all of this.)
But just from looking at the blood lust that was instantly inspired (at least in the online and media spaces) in the USA
Meh. Everyone wants to see the blood but nobody wants to be the blood. The Reddit Volunteers Brigade nipped enthusiasm for that in the bud.
how fast would that ramp up in Poland to the point that politicians would wind up being lead by the frothing masses into retaliating?
People are shitting on the Russian military for being antiquated and sclerotic. I doubt the Poles kept their military hardware in any better condition. Again, I have no doubt that the media would whip Polish people into a frenzy. But not into a disciplined, experienced, well-equipped fighting force.
Doesn't need to be disciplined, experience, or well equipped. All that needs to happen is one NATO country starting the cascade of "country "X" honoring its NATO agreements so we're mobilizing military support."
All that needs to happen is one NATO country starting the cascade
Turkey is notorious about invoking article 4. But NATO did not rush into the fray against the Kurds. Or the Greeks for that matter (a weird one, since they were both NATO members).
I think there's a much bigger risk of one or two countries trying to pick a fight, thinking they've got NATO at their backs, only for the cavalry to never arrive. Like, the US might move in to bail Poland out if Russians decided to start nationalizing chunks west of Ukraine's furthest border. But I don't think Biden would come leaping to the defense of some Polish Charge of the Light Brigade into Ukrainian territory, for the same reason he hasn't been eager to back Ukraine directly to begin with.
The US is already spread thin and operating on absurd margins, thanks to privatization turning the Pentagon into a giant corporate piggy bank. I don't know if we could muster at the scale of Iraq again, much less Vietnam or Korea, given the real material limits on skilled labor and advanced electronics. Hell, what would a land war in Europe do to gas prices in the region? People in the UK are already seriously looking at £10/liter petrol.
Imagine doing to Eastern Europe what we did to the Middle East? Nobody in NATO actually wants that.
In some other parallel universe, their version of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" is referencing this universe/timeline as a parody of their own...
I don't see how this is controversial or inappropriate, Poland is a nato member making things crystal clear as to the boundaries of the conflict is a way to reduce the likelihood of escalation. Like I can think nato is shit and still think that ensuring the letter of the treaties are important. Also do you think the USA is such a stickler for details that they would even need a real attack on a nato member if they wanted a war? Like they invaded Iraq basically whole cloth and their mind control system of media has only gotten stronger since.
I think the US will need a little more details for escalating a war with another nuclear state.
Especially to help support their manufactured media narrative
Honestly I don't think so. We even have nominally anti-war libs frothing at the bit to genocide Russian civilians. If anything I think that it is the US intelligence state trying to hold us back from a direct conflict, not out of altruism, because the plan is a longterm bleed of russia.
If anything I think that it is the US intelligence state trying to hold us back from a direct conflict…
I agree
Tfw the Pentagon is the adult in the room :sadness-abysmal:
When you got lib pundits like Maddow that opposed the Iraq War out here making "Putin is literally worse than Hitler" claims, you know people are losing it
Good point, I hadn't considered corraling the puppets. That being said i still don't think the US imperial state is in the tank for a direct conflict, it seems like it goes against the established pattern. Though it wouldn't entierly surprise me if minority elements weren't pushing for something more direct.
Good point, I hadn't considered corraling the puppets. That being said i still don't think the US imperial state is in the tank for a direct conflict, it seems like it goes against the established pattern. Though it wouldn't entierly surprise me if minority elements weren't pushing for something more direct.
I am still in denial of the possibility of a NATO-Russia war. Like I still can’t fathom it as a possibility even though part of my brain is telling me that it is indeed a growing possibility …
Not necessarily, I remember he went fuckin ham with sanctions in an effort to prove he was his own man. Trump is just too insecure and easy to manipulate from what I can see.
Joe Biden withdrew from Afghanistan, something Trump never would’ve ACTUALLY done bc he would “look like a loser”
All this because their totally 'voluntary' and not at all covert professional battalion got decimated.
all I know is somehow there is someone who saw this and thought "this is good for bitcoin"
Every day I feel more like I'm living in the first 30 minutes of Threads
shitty execution and getting caught, nato is forced to join the war against ukraine
