NEW: Details on the possible Russia-Ukraine deal

– Russia ceases fire and withdraws – Ukrainian "neutrality" without Nato – Kyiv keeps its army but can't host foreign bases – Russian gets legal status in Ukraine

    • Ziege_Bock [any]
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      3 years ago

      I hope he takes this deal. I also hope it doesn't get him JFK'd.

      Really, Finlandization of Ukraine is the obvious compromise between two imperialist nations trying to get you into their sphere of influence.

      • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I worry most that the far right would view him, a jew as a traitor

        • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          They certainly will and it will cause civil unrest and factions within the Ukrainian state that are currently smoothed over by the urgent need for defense against Russia. As soon as Russia isn’t a military threat and Zelenskyy proves a “weak traitor” we are going to see some shit go down

          • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Putin did more for the far right in 2 weeks than the CIA did in 8.

            • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Not true whatsoever. Putin was pushed into this corner by the CIA/US imperialists creating massive far right militant buildups on his border. This is entirely CIA top bottom and center.

              • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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                3 years ago

                One of the most powerful men on earth, in control of one of the strongest military forces on earth, had his hand forced. Very plausible.

                • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  Do you know what NATO is? Do you know what a knife to the throat is?

                  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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                    3 years ago

                    Nations don't have throats, only people do. NATO is a force that is good at bullying non-nuclear nations smaller than 20M people or with a GDP less than $250B.

                    There were at least 2 or 3 responsive options for the Russian state; it's rather dishonest to say that there was only one option.

                    Alternatively, since apparently we're talking in condescending and loaded non sequiturs now: Do you know what a bully is?

    • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      He doesn’t make decisions. His NATO handlers and Nazi military do