society as a baseline is transphobic or apathetic at best towards people who are transphobic, so most ppl don't care about her being a terf or know what terf means. most ppl aren't anti-semitic and actively dislike antisemites
nah that one I can believe. Like transphobia is from ignorance, and having your whole social knowledge challenged, after which people lash out. Unjustly ofc.
Bigots lashing out when challenged is unsurprising and they still deserve a bullet.
1000%. Do you know why people, like at the individual level, are antisemitic? Maybe it's just because I'm trans, but i've never even met a Jewish person, that I can't really imagine antisemites.
Aye, I get that, at the cultural level, but I'm wondering how people as individuals "justify it". Transphobia is cultural, social conditioning, and gnc ppl go against that social conditioning. So I can see how the social conditioning being broken can be "scary", esp for conservatives.
That I can't really imagine antisemitism might be because 75% of my country's Jewish population was killed by the Nazis, so maybe that says enough
That does say a lot on its own, but the individualistic justifications are pretty boilerplate bigotry. Everything from “it’s just a joke don’t make a big deal about it” to “they’re exclusively responsible for the societal changes that I don’t like”
anti-semitism is somewhat incomparable to transphobia in that it's infinitely more insidious, it's found in most of anti-communist rhetoric even if it's not blatant. people don't go "all jews should [minecraft words]" out loud because it's a super taboo to say it out loud, but there's hellla dogwhistles. half of anti-capitalist rhetoric you'll hear from chuds is just them swapping jews out with bankers or billionaires verbally, unfortunately. it's also genuinely the initial basis for like, 90% of white supremacist rhetoric, believe it or not.
speaking as a trans jew myself, transphobia is more of an outward reaction to a change in our societal workings, anti-semitism is moreso subtly baked into the very fabric of our society. fundamentally incomparable, both are major issues
You don’t look super hard. There’s tons of people who say “da Jews” are the secret cabal ruining everything. They just got good at hiding it or presenting it in a way that people don’t pick up as outright anti-semitism post holocaust.
Either way hateful ignorant tropes are hateful ignorant tropes and don’t need to be compared to other forms of oppression. We can focus on more than one thing at a time
I don't care for any of those movies or games and even if I did, the woman is a terf anyway. It's just weird to me that people do this borderline conspiracy theory thinking to get offended on my behalf.
Rowling has, at the very least, a very liberal type of ignorant racism that can come from privilege, it has informed a lot of aspects of the books. Literally just about anytime a character that isn’t white is portrayed there’s some kind of sketchy element, even if it’s just lazy racist naming convention like “Cho Chang.”
Saying it’s a conspiracy theory thinking to notice the entire web of ambient white British racism in her work is, I think, being entirely too generous. But I do think it’s maybe fair to say that it’s extra highlighted bc of what an outright bigot she is to trans people
Her racism isn’t overtly or loudly white supremacist but it’s still pretty problematic, and part of the status quo, which is probably why you’re inclined to be so lenient, and still worth noting and calling out bc it helps reify that ideology in more insidious ways that tend to be imperceptible to greater liberal culture
Oh, I'm not saying that Rowling isn't the sort of racist you're describing and there are some very sketchy stuff in Harry Potter books, chiefly the whole slave elves thing.
But when people bringing up bank floor ornaments with a straight face, I start rolling my eyes.
Yeah I think it’s more unfortunate than anything. But it does highlight how people are generally blind to how damaging, and invisible, these tropes are that at no point during the shooting anyone notice and thought to remove it and how easily it’s hand waived away. Certainly its not a conscious choice, but it just adds icing on the ignorance cake that’s already going on
The goblins in the lore are never depicted as totally liberated. The wizards continue to ban sentient magical creatures from owning wands, casting certain spells, living in certain areas, using money, etc. In fact, in the seventh book, the main characters try to get help from one goblin to break into a bank and are planning to trade him a mystical sword for his trouble, although their plan the entire time is to simply trick him and keep the sword for themselves.
The characters will point out how goblins and other magical creatures are oppressed, they might even be sad about it, like Dumbledore laments it at one point, but literally nothing is done to change anything. The best they can get is maybe a nicer person will run the oppressive government. Maybe the slaves will get a nicer master. can you guess JK's ideological position here
it reminds me of when people are like "tolkein's orcs aren't racist!" when in his private letters he literally describes them as "resembling the least lovely mongol types"
yeah antisemitism is generally something that is super subtly reinforced comparative to, say, transphobia, so yeah it is 100% not a tiny detail for me the fact that one of the largest book franchises has that blatant a connection to antisemitic stereotypes and the fact that the movies chose to reinforce it with those tiny details.
I'm not all that invested in this so I probably won't Google it, but the size isn't really the point. I'm not saying that Rowling personally placed a Star of David in the background just to make sure nobody missed her antisemitism, but I also find it hard to believe that nobody suggested that it might not be such a good idea to film a scene about a sub-human race of Goblin bankers while using a Jewish bank as your backdrop.
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yeah but her recent terf book shows how surface level her bigotry is. can you not imagine a hack writer doing the thinnest veil of bigotry
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Hermione is literally described as having white skin in the books. This was just a cynical retcon. Either way it’s fucked up.
For real? This is one I’d never caught. Then again, RK seems to describe every single woman she doesn’t like as having “mannish” hands
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Holy shit it’s been there the whole time
society as a baseline is transphobic or apathetic at best towards people who are transphobic, so most ppl don't care about her being a terf or know what terf means. most ppl aren't anti-semitic and actively dislike antisemites
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nah that one I can believe. Like transphobia is from ignorance, and having your whole social knowledge challenged, after which people lash out. Unjustly ofc.
Tf did Judaism ever do to ppl?
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1000%. Do you know why people, like at the individual level, are antisemitic? Maybe it's just because I'm trans, but i've never even met a Jewish person, that I can't really imagine antisemites.
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Aye, I get that, at the cultural level, but I'm wondering how people as individuals "justify it". Transphobia is cultural, social conditioning, and gnc ppl go against that social conditioning. So I can see how the social conditioning being broken can be "scary", esp for conservatives.
That I can't really imagine antisemitism might be because 75% of my country's Jewish population was killed by the Nazis, so maybe that says enough
That does say a lot on its own, but the individualistic justifications are pretty boilerplate bigotry. Everything from “it’s just a joke don’t make a big deal about it” to “they’re exclusively responsible for the societal changes that I don’t like”
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anti-semitism is somewhat incomparable to transphobia in that it's infinitely more insidious, it's found in most of anti-communist rhetoric even if it's not blatant. people don't go "all jews should [minecraft words]" out loud because it's a super taboo to say it out loud, but there's hellla dogwhistles. half of anti-capitalist rhetoric you'll hear from chuds is just them swapping jews out with bankers or billionaires verbally, unfortunately. it's also genuinely the initial basis for like, 90% of white supremacist rhetoric, believe it or not.
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You don’t look super hard. There’s tons of people who say “da Jews” are the secret cabal ruining everything. They just got good at hiding it or presenting it in a way that people don’t pick up as outright anti-semitism post holocaust.
Either way hateful ignorant tropes are hateful ignorant tropes and don’t need to be compared to other forms of oppression. We can focus on more than one thing at a time
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Seems to be a repeating issue for you.
hi :andropov-wave:
reform, but i partake in the traditions
i actually did Passover once bc one of my families friends is a psychotic evangelical
there were no jewish ppl involved out of like 20 ppl lmao
bet the charoset was mid, if not straight up ass then :what-the-hell:
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i can't look at this image and think it wasn't at least a little intentional
it literally looks like something /pol/ would make if it had a budget
She didn't direct the movies though.
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and more importantly wrote the source material
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I don't care for any of those movies or games and even if I did, the woman is a terf anyway. It's just weird to me that people do this borderline conspiracy theory thinking to get offended on my behalf.
Rowling has, at the very least, a very liberal type of ignorant racism that can come from privilege, it has informed a lot of aspects of the books. Literally just about anytime a character that isn’t white is portrayed there’s some kind of sketchy element, even if it’s just lazy racist naming convention like “Cho Chang.”
Saying it’s a conspiracy theory thinking to notice the entire web of ambient white British racism in her work is, I think, being entirely too generous. But I do think it’s maybe fair to say that it’s extra highlighted bc of what an outright bigot she is to trans people
Her racism isn’t overtly or loudly white supremacist but it’s still pretty problematic, and part of the status quo, which is probably why you’re inclined to be so lenient, and still worth noting and calling out bc it helps reify that ideology in more insidious ways that tend to be imperceptible to greater liberal culture
Oh, I'm not saying that Rowling isn't the sort of racist you're describing and there are some very sketchy stuff in Harry Potter books, chiefly the whole slave elves thing.
But when people bringing up bank floor ornaments with a straight face, I start rolling my eyes.
Yeah I think it’s more unfortunate than anything. But it does highlight how people are generally blind to how damaging, and invisible, these tropes are that at no point during the shooting anyone notice and thought to remove it and how easily it’s hand waived away. Certainly its not a conscious choice, but it just adds icing on the ignorance cake that’s already going on
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The goblins in the lore are never depicted as totally liberated. The wizards continue to ban sentient magical creatures from owning wands, casting certain spells, living in certain areas, using money, etc. In fact, in the seventh book, the main characters try to get help from one goblin to break into a bank and are planning to trade him a mystical sword for his trouble, although their plan the entire time is to simply trick him and keep the sword for themselves.
The characters will point out how goblins and other magical creatures are oppressed, they might even be sad about it, like Dumbledore laments it at one point, but literally nothing is done to change anything. The best they can get is maybe a nicer person will run the oppressive government. Maybe the slaves will get a nicer master. can you guess JK's ideological position here
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Okay but how did nobody on set think that through? Someone made a conscious decision not to cover that up with some magical runes or whatever.
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it reminds me of when people are like "tolkein's orcs aren't racist!" when in his private letters he literally describes them as "resembling the least lovely mongol types"
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yeah antisemitism is generally something that is super subtly reinforced comparative to, say, transphobia, so yeah it is 100% not a tiny detail for me the fact that one of the largest book franchises has that blatant a connection to antisemitic stereotypes and the fact that the movies chose to reinforce it with those tiny details.
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I'm not all that invested in this so I probably won't Google it, but the size isn't really the point. I'm not saying that Rowling personally placed a Star of David in the background just to make sure nobody missed her antisemitism, but I also find it hard to believe that nobody suggested that it might not be such a good idea to film a scene about a sub-human race of Goblin bankers while using a Jewish bank as your backdrop.
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