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usage of the words rich old white guys kinda makes your point more obscure here
But its sort of the crux of the issue. The folks picking the award winners aren't the folks who spend deep into the five and six figures doing Harry Potter Lived Experience.
The split is, in many ways, reflective of a class divide between Hollywood Sickos and the people who consume their slop.
i would legitimately trust most harry potter fanatic over most old rich white guys
Just not on the quality of movies, particularly Harry Potter movies.
It was a boring movie that perfected the Marvel formula but didn't really do anything new or award-worthy. The CG in Dr Strange 2 looks better than what was in this movie. The music was the same ol' shit. The script was the same ol' comedy/sci-fi shit. The relationship between Strange and Peter was contrived. They knew each other for like two hours before being dead for 5 years. Then they fought together for 20 mins. Bringing in Raimi stuff was obviously just bait because multiverse shit is so hot right now. Dafoe was good because its' Dafoe but he was also the Joker.
Disney will own the Oscars eventually anyways. It's not like they matter either. Pixar and their animated movies already get automatic awards every year. It's only a matter of time before capeshit gets its own award.
It’s only a matter of time before capeshit gets its own award.
They're already gonna do it. I actually thought this category was already implemented because I remember the buzz back when they first announced it.
The Oscars used to be an inside thing that only Hollywood sickos cared about.
Now its a spectacle that's about telling people what movies are good. Movies that win awards get a second life on screen and via rental. I'm amazed this shit didn't happen sooner. Although with Best Picture going to shit like Dances With Wolves and Birdman, I guess one could argue it kinda already had.
Still, in a capitalist culture where "Makes The Most Money" is supposed to signal "Is The Best Thing", someone has to square the contradiction between some low-budget drama about the South Korean servant class earning a meager $30M at the box office while beating out Star Wars IX, New Jumanji, and Sonic when they all topped $120M.
The fight scenes were so bland that I saw a gif of one of then posted a week after I saw the movie and didn't remember the scene from the movie.
Disney will own the Oscars eventually anyways.
I'm amazed they don't just do their own incestuous Disney Awards for Best Disney Movie or some shit. They crank out enough of them every year.
We released a movie packed with nostalgia and reused plots/villains from previous movies. You love that, don't you, stupid pigs.
Unsurprisingly the 3-hour long CGI bonanza whose script definitely came straight off of AO3 did not win any Oscars. Not that the Oscars have any real legitimacy to begin with, but come on now.
:nonsense: ending poverty by seizing property from the ownership class
:so-true: equal representation in the academy awards
Marvel fans irate about how their movies don't win oscars are almost worse than g*mers who get irate that people don't take their artistic medium seriously. The oscars are just a bunch of pretentious petty bourgeoi self congratulatory types all jerking off to how awesome and amazing they are, and I say that as someone who enjoys participating in an oscar pool/betting game. So what if Doctor Strange 2 wins a best picture oscar or it gets snubbed? Its literally the biggest dominating force in cinema that's going to keep dominating the next half century or so of culture and these people somehow think an oscar is gonna grant it more legitimacy?
Marvel fans irate about how their movies don’t win oscars are almost worse than g*mers who get irate that people don’t take their artistic medium seriously.
The reason Marvel fans wants their capeshit to be taken seriously is the same reason why gamers wants video games to be considered "art": bragging reward. They want to be able to brags about "Oh yeah, I watched the first Avengers/I played Bioshock" and people would be amazed in the same way when one says that they have read the classics or went to the opera.
However the moment their media receive any kind of serious criticism, befitting if one is to be treated maturely, they completely rolled back on their claims and falls back into "It's just dumb entertainment, let people have fun!". It already happened with video games, the "video game is art" movement was killed by Gamergate in 2014-2015 when they branded all critiques that made them feels uncomfortable as SJW nonsense. Ever since that the stance of capital G G*mers have always been that vidya is an innocent apolitical mindless media form immune from criticism.
g*mers who get irate that people don’t take their artistic medium seriously
I'm sympathetic to the folks who had to live through the 80s/90s reactionary politic take on video games. My high school got turned into a Counterstrike Map that was passed around in the wake of Columbine, and kids caught playing it were legit hounded out of the school.
But we're so far passed that today. The martyrdom complex just feels vestigial at this point.
Didn't Suicide Squad win an oscar for best makeup or something? Marvel Fanboys in utter shambles.
I remember originally I was just showing my little sister how to pirate it on my laptop, then we sat down in her room and watched it together; I was expecting it to be pretty rubbish but we ended up both really enjoying it.
I don't get how marvel fanboys think they deserve oscars for releasing the same film more times than a COD game when actually interesting films are being made by marvel's competitors
actually interesting films are being made by marvel’s competitors
:doubt:
It's better than mcu has been in a while, but it still feels written by committee, and the way marvel films action scenes are bland to the point that I forget about them the instant that they end. Lol, relatedly I'm straight up impressed that marvel managed to somehow make a boring Kung fu movie.
It was a pretty overhyped movie, which made it feel bad
Definitely a fan service film
i don't want the oscars to be more diverse, i want the oscars to not matter. there's no reason they should matter. they frequently give awards to dogshit and there's no requirement that the judges even watch all the movies nominated.
It would be more L O G I C A L and O B J E C T I V E if absolutely every pretense of judging art was done away with and replaced with measurements of how well it sells and how many Funko Pops are sold in its image. :so-true:
It’s time for a deeper look at how comic book movies aren’t considered awards-worthy art.
Black panther was nominated for best picture, and while No Way Home was fun it's so crazy to think of it as award-worthy art.
it wasn't even that good a movie. i guarantee everyone who went to see it is either a marvel :so-true: or enjoyed the previous spider-man iterations. why does it need critically acclaimed to be meaningful
I haven't watched the new one, but I feel like they really missed the point of Spiderman with these new movies. We have enough globetrotting cape guys on the big screen - I just want to see our friendly neighborhood Spiderman shooting webs at whacky themed villains of the week.
Not every battle needs to put the world at jeopardy. Sometimes you can just knock over a few local banks and call it a day, you know?
the marvel formula basically relies on huge stakes and giant setpieces to mask the fact that it's all shot in an empty room
