Genes are literally not real. The concept of a gene is completely pointless since all structural functions of DNA are already described by the language of molecular biology without the need for this 'concept.'

That means a gene is a metaphysical idea.

The notion of a gene began as a way to describe the supposed essence of biological organisms that existed at their expense. Lysenko refuted this impractical metaphysical garbage and Anglo institutions of 'science' have smeared him ever since.

Lysenko wasn't a molecular biologist and never claimed to be. Its just that when his actual practical findings contradicted Mendeloid dogma, the Westoid Mendeloid 'scientists' attempted to purge and discredit him.

Now his findings are almost totally confirmed.

The West's rejection of Lysenko had nothing to do with science. During WWII they actually engaged with his ideas earnestly. Then, they started to politicize him right at the outset of the cold war and solely for political reasons.

Rejecting Mendeloid 'gene' has nothing to do with rejecting heredity. In fact Lysenko was a strong hereditarian, even more than the neodarwinists. The point is what grounds the heredity, for Lysenko this is the organism taken as a whole metabolism, and not a gene essence.

The implication for humanity is simple: We cannot take it for granted. In the West we experience a post human era. This spiritual degradation of human beings literally will affect our very biological essence.

Reddit and Marvel is slow transition to becoming monkeys and swine.

  • Commander_Data [she/her]
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    I mean he's nuts, but he's not entirely wrong. Mendellian genetics is to actual phenotype as the Bohr model of the atom is to actual electron configuration. It's way more complicated than gene X expresses trait Y and actual geneticists know this. Shit, they teach you that in freshman biology. Also, what the hell do :reddit-logo: and capeshit have to do with any of this?

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      Yes, but "Gene" in molecular biology has an exact meaning nowadays. This is Haz claiming electrons don't exist because you can represent the whole atom and its chemical interations as a single wave function in theory.

        • RNAi [he/him]
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          Or a group if said gene undergoes alternative splicing; or if it has other genes inside of it, like intronic noncodingRNAs.

    • Hewaoijsdb [none/use name]
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      I'm not entirely sure, but I think he's saying that reddit and capeshit is what you can point to as the example of the spiritual degradation of the West.

      • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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        I mean I'd put the blame on Twitter and neoliberals but that works too I guess...

  • Abraxiel
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    neat how -oid just means "of a category, but in a derogatory way" now

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    genes are real, but he is partially correct in that westoids are linear "thinkers" who have an incessant need to attribute EVERYTHING to genetics, and LOATHE the idea of inequalities producing real (and even heritable!) biostructural changes in people's bodies

    example: when rats are given a high protein diet, they become taller. When these rats have kids, and those kids are fed a LOW protein diet, they end up taller than equivalently fed rats. They inherited the structural changes of their parents, which were initiated by a protein-replete diet.

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        the difference is that inequalities can be corrected within a generation (if the political system allows for it)

        or do we have to pretend that everything is already equal in order to be politically correct?

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          • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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            Your implication that “black people do inherit an innate intellectual inferiority but this would change if we got rid of capitalism” is hardly an improvement on HBD

            my insinuation was about developing countries and oppressed people in general

            what you’re dancing around is clear

            okay, so what's the alternative? Pretend everything is currently equal and nobody is oppressed?

            What's the difference between "yes inequalities lead to heritable deleterious changes which can be mostly reversed within a generation" and "inequalities lead to deleterious changes which aren't heritable whatsoever"? I mean it sounds like you're arbitrarily offended by the first one for some reason, but wouldn't the 2nd one be almost just as bad? Not to mention it softens the real impacts of inequality.

            Should we also pretend that children who are forcibly separated from the parents at birth don't experience lifelong trauma?

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              • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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                I think the first formulation is dangerous because it suggests that even independent of the social forces buffeting people there can be something in their blood

                literally doesn't though. Because these are completely CAUSED by those social forces. The idea that social forces CANNOT change genetic expression is complete westoidery. They do, all the time, and if you change the environment they change back.

                I'm not interested in what's considered "dangerous" or "ethnically targetable" by normie chuds, because those are always going to behave like that no matter what. If 50% of whites were born with a large mole on their scalp, they'd mentally contort their heads into finding a way to make that a mark of superiority.

                You also fail to mention the "default" mode of thinking, which is already that all differences are hard-genetic and almost 100% nature. Chuds and even normies still say stuff like "Asians/Indians are genetically short" despite Chinese young adults being literally taller than Southern European countries which have had nutritionally perfect diets for a century+.

    • SuperNovaCouchGuy [any]
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      westoids are linear “thinkers” who have an incessant need to attribute EVERYTHING to genetics, and LOATHE the idea of inequalities producing real (and even heritable!) biostructural changes in people’s bodies

      For one, Haz probably doesn't care about the negative effects of inequalities, he's a stupid coddled conservatoid manchild with xtra rage who cries and whines when Uber Eats cant deliver his treaties without calling him when they are outside his house.

      Also the problem is that a person who attributes everything to genetics is what we call a "Nazi", "Phrenologist", or "Race Realist" and their academic inadequacies fail miserably under the scrutiny of actual science.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      You mean racist idiots?

      No scientist denies the effects of nurture, even decades before the whole discover of hereditable epigenetics. Or if there's mutagens as nurture lol.

      (Or the few cases where genomes themselves purposedly changes itself like in the Crispr thing in bacteria. Or if viruses insert themselves in the germline genome and fuck up things. Or if transposons fuck up things in the germline genome. Or the effects of old age in meiosis and so the more usual fuck up of the germline genome. Or [to be discovered] )

  • mr_world [they/them]
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    Metaphysics is when something is not real and the more not real it is, the more metaphysical it is.

    Something is only real when it can't be described by superfluous descriptors.

    Why yes I'm into philosophy, how could you tell?

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    This person fundamentally doesn't understand genetics.

    • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]M
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      His takes on Russia and all that aside (he's now an open Putin supporter, but @ZZ_SloppyTop made reference to some actual good points of his from earlier on), he came onto bigger streams to "debate" people (see: scream incoherently and insult) and that probably built his brand a ton.

      • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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        Yes just watched another clip of him and holy shit is this guy annoying, and he makes huge leaps in logic just to make reactionary social points. I definitely don’t endorse him entirely, but I will say he sees imperialism for what it is a lot more clearly than many western leftists. Apparently he ran a Hezbollah fan page in middle school. If he wasn’t reactionary I would like him as a character, not a thinker though

    • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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      He was more correct about Ukraine-Russia and the subsequent Liberal Fascism from the west than most other leftists were, I have to hand it to him.

      It was the only clip I’ve seen of him, but he was saying months ago that it wouldn’t be Trump/GOP who led the west into overt fascism but imperialists within the Democratic Party. He also wasn’t poopooing the idea that Putin would invade, but talking about the Russian grievances and how they were being ignored and that was dangerous.

      Can we really deny that at this point? Worst person you know was actually right

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        Overt fascism is a class happening, not pontificating nature of holocaust :meow-tableflip:

        If fascism comes to usa, it will be against commies/mexicans/blacks/lgbt, if it comes to europe, it would be against commies/arabs/roma/lgbt.

        Democrats are just imperialists, same as republicans

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          Fascism will come from the imperialist center, not the paleocon Trumpian weirdos. If you don’t see that after this last month idk what to say

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            Lol Texas and a ton of other states say otherwise! They are gearing up to start doing some serious pruning of the population for "demographic health" reasons.

            • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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              There are only one group of people backing Nazis, calling for World War & pogroming Russians right now and it isn’t Trump fans

              • comi [he/him]
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                No one is pogroming russians in core countries (check out what pogroms were, in case you forgot), ukraine military is supported by whole core (and granularly, by republicans outside of exactly future fash of tucker variety). Libs are always bloodthirsty, doesn’t make them fascist, at least not yet. Let me ask you, was british support in crimean wars of ottoman empire something unusual? Ottoman empire was completely unaligned with europe otherwise at that time.

                There is a difference between cynically funneling money to whomever is for your empire interests, and internal fascist movement in country

                • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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                  I’m being a bit facetious but hate crimes are occurring and Russophobia is skyrocketing, and there is a banning and shaming of all Russian culture and media and communication and commerce. I am sure you see the pattern of xenophobic and prejudicial scapegoating behavior that is happening, most strongly among the center.

                  • comi [he/him]
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                    I don’t particularly see difference with 9/11 consequences (also alignment of all liberals on hating muslims/arabs).

                    I just find frustrating tendency to label everything fascism, then whole liberal world can be called such, since colonialism with different atrocities, xenophobia and so on.

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                      Muslim hate was also fascistic, it justified our slaughter of millions of Arabs and Muslims in the Middle East (Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, etc). That’s fascism.

                      Just like our anti-Asian racism justified the slaughter of millions of Asians (Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, etc). Anti-Japanese racism was also a big part of American imperialist actions in the Pacific, they justify dropping 2 nukes on civilians and firebombing civilian cities when that was not necessary to stop Japanese imperialism.

                      All fascism is is imperialism turned inwards and done upon oneself for stabilization during crisis. The fascists cannibalize a portion of their population to appease the population and ease capitalist crisis. They do this because they ran out of easy targets abroad to eat but they still hungry.

                      The same forces that are today imperialist will be fascist tomorrow. Itsthesamepeople.jpg, itsthesamemachine.png

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                        fascists cannibalize a portion of their population to appease the population and ease capitalist crisis

                        Exactly, internal distinction is important. or all colonial countries also fall under the banner of fascism (they were worse), and then it’s all confusing

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      At least pass some of it to the sniffing guy in the trash can over there. :zizek-preference:

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    Who would have thought the dude who doesn't know the basic anatomy of a woman has also no fucking idea about genetics.

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    "Mendelian genetics is wrong!"

    "Well yeah, scientific understanding of biochemistry has advanced since the 1800's. Mendel himself was well aware that were holes in his theories and was unable to replicate the pea-plant experiment's results on different plants."

    "Which is why we need to go back to Lamarckian genetics."

    Absolute genius.