I know some Ukrainian folks who consider themselves “left leaning” (they’re liberals obviously but they don’t really understand what that means) . The situation in Ukraine has triggered a lot of “Russia has always hated Ukrainians, there was forced starvation!” Kind of talk.

I get it, because most of these people are second generation and know history from their parents’ perspectives. I understand where the sense of nationalism is coming from. Regardless of the truth it’s a pretty dark thing to talk about andI don’t want to come across as saying “Ackshyuallyyyyy”

I feel like saying something along the lines of “the prevailing academic opinions don’t back as historical fact” is a bit insensitive but I wish people were even open minded enough to listen. I guess I’m just wondering if this is a thing anyone else engages with? What do you say if this comes up in conversation? How does it go? Why would a loving god cause such agony?

  • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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    3 years ago

    and if reading a PDF is too much for them, you can buy the book here at Lulu. Which also seems to print lots of out of print material.

    https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/douglas-tottle/fraud-famine-and-fascism-the-ukrainian-genocide-myth-from-hitler-to-harvard/paperback/product-mzpw94.html?page=1&pageSize=4