I know some Ukrainian folks who consider themselves “left leaning” (they’re liberals obviously but they don’t really understand what that means) . The situation in Ukraine has triggered a lot of “Russia has always hated Ukrainians, there was forced starvation!” Kind of talk.

I get it, because most of these people are second generation and know history from their parents’ perspectives. I understand where the sense of nationalism is coming from. Regardless of the truth it’s a pretty dark thing to talk about andI don’t want to come across as saying “Ackshyuallyyyyy”

I feel like saying something along the lines of “the prevailing academic opinions don’t back as historical fact” is a bit insensitive but I wish people were even open minded enough to listen. I guess I’m just wondering if this is a thing anyone else engages with? What do you say if this comes up in conversation? How does it go? Why would a loving god cause such agony?

  • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    "It was pretty fucked up how the those kulaks landlords killed the livestock and burned the grain you guys worked so hard to grow, lucky that Stalin was there to send food supplies. Wish he had acted quicker but that's bureaucracy for you. At least the Soviets managed to industrialize agriculture after that and prevent any more famines from happening, at least ones not caused by the Nazis."