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  • LucyTheBrazen [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Dunno, I feel like since the quarantine the quality of the show, and how decent the criticism of the American empire is improved.

    • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Absolutely, John Oliver may not be a "leftist" but we shouldn't trash him, we need people like him in mainstream media to spread vaguely left ideas.

      The far right has a massive array of talking heads spreading their beliefs while people like John Oliver are pretty much the closest we'll get (with a non-negligible audience).

      Like yeah, we can jerk each other off over our ideological purity alongside the other couple thousand chapo chat users while the fascists share their propaganda with millions of people every single day. People like John Oliver are the closest to allies in mainstream media that we'll get.

      • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        If just tankies or whatever we call them now were the only ones doing videos, I wouldn't have even gone left.

      • LucyTheBrazen [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Hell, he might even be a leftist, and smart enough to stay inside lib takes to not lose the platform.

        Image him going full Marxist, he'd be off HBO immediately

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Eh, his Vuvuzela episode was peak lib shit but I think he's being radicalized similarly to Robert Evans by recent events.

          Source: My radicalization followed a very similar trajectory to theirs and people like Cody Johnston (though I suspect Cody was always a little more radical than he let on).

    • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      How do we get through critiques of American Empire. It's pretty easy to correct the record in Latin America, but China is another level. Like even I'm afraid to talk about Xinjiang to libs.

      • LucyTheBrazen [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        As you should be. China might lift millions out of poverty per year, and provide them with access to industrialized society, but for an allegedly socialist society workers in large parts still get shafted pretty hard.

        Sure, some of it boils down to the west actively seeking out exploitative environments, due to them being cheap, and some might boil down to China intentionally allowing it, to gain influence in the global economy, therefore allowing them to build a more just society decades down the line, but at least I personally believe that the well being of hundreds of thousands of individual workers shouldn't be sacrificed like that...