Seems legit

  • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I don't think this legit, lol. Can't find the data source, the data source cited in the image doesn't appear to have any interracial marriage stats or anything like that. I did find some other graphics on reddit that painted a slightly more equal picture of EU citizens (here but you can't access the data OP in that thread got anymore, dead link). Although it did confirm eastern Europe was still racist and same with Czechia and Slovakia and for some reason Portugal and Spain are still very different in attitude for whatever reason.

    I would be surprised if Israel is actually that high - Ethiopian Beta Israelis had troubles with actually getting into Israel for example.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Ethiopian Beta Israelis had troubles with actually getting into Israel for example.

      My "Oh my god Israel is the real Nazis" moment was finding out that Israel secretly sterilized Beta Israel people as they were coming in to the country.

      • kristina [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        there could be a translation issue. sometimes when you say 'would you marry a black person' the word black sometimes has a connotation to thievery/illegal activities, roma, or caucasian people (like muslims from chechnya). yeah its bad it has those connotations but its possible theyre asking a completely different racist question that accidentally is asking about roma instead of black people

        depends on slavic language but im told russian is like that. in czechia the word has different connotations (which are usually still bad/somewhat racist depending on the word), i can confirm that as a czech speaker (though i am from a minority dialect, am a citizen, and do not speak czech to people all the time... so take with grain of salt). so probably accounts for the percentage there

      • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        No idea, apparently a lot of surveys reported a difference between "are you okay with interracial marriages in general" vs "are you okay with someone in your own family marrying someone of a different ethnicity" but they're a little more aligned in eastern europe. I can tell you the traditional more materialist analysis of racism in the new world where the importation of black slaves and the genocide of the indigenous peoples engendered a systematic racism that has yet to actually be addressed, but I couldn't tell you the materialist source of racism in the former soviet union or warsaw pact - because as far as I know a lot of the history of the early USSR included deliberate attempts at stuff like Belarussification and Ukrainization they called nativization or whatever under Lenin, but I don't think they would have deliberately engendered any anti-black racism. The USSR was certainly pro decolonization in Africa. Maybe it's a hangover from some of the colour revolutions and CIA shit they were pulling after 1991??

        • ssjmarx [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          The USSR was always fighting against its own internal reactionaries at a structural level. Basically every institution had strict quotas for representation from the member republics, representation of women, etc to prevent domination by men or Russians - quotas which were done away with when the Union was destroyed, leading directly to the sorry state of political representation in Eastern Europe today. African Americans who visited the USSR tend to report being treated very well by the people there, but it's also true that there wasn't much of a flow of Africans into the Soviet Union and that kind of racism spikes when immigration starts happening (though it also tends to return to the norm once the immigrant population has had time to be integrated). It's also worth noting that the USSR didn't have freedom of speech, and one of the things that was allowed to run rampant after the introduction of liberalism was hate speech, which undoubtedly radicalized a bunch of people who were looking for a group to hate in the desperate times of the 90s.

          Lastly, basically every formerly communist place sees a big right wing reaction once the commies lose power. Some of that is natural as the bourgeois reasserts itself, but a lot of it is undeniably because reactionaries get a lot of funding from capitalist countries as a counter to leftists.

        • blobjim [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          The US did finance and support fascists in Eastern Europe, who took over when they destroyed the Soviet Union...

          And those people were xenophobic and elitist and all that.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          It's probably just good old fashioned stereotypes and prejudice. Provincialism and ignorance doesn't require capitalism or chattel slavery.