I don't think this legit, lol. Can't find the data source, the data source cited in the image doesn't appear to have any interracial marriage stats or anything like that. I did find some other graphics on reddit that painted a slightly more equal picture of EU citizens (here but you can't access the data OP in that thread got anymore, dead link). Although it did confirm eastern Europe was still racist and same with Czechia and Slovakia and for some reason Portugal and Spain are still very different in attitude for whatever reason.
I would be surprised if Israel is actually that high - Ethiopian Beta Israelis had troubles with actually getting into Israel for example.
Ethiopian Beta Israelis had troubles with actually getting into Israel for example.
My "Oh my god Israel is the real Nazis" moment was finding out that Israel secretly sterilized Beta Israel people as they were coming in to the country.
there could be a translation issue. sometimes when you say 'would you marry a black person' the word black sometimes has a connotation to thievery/illegal activities, roma, or caucasian people (like muslims from chechnya). yeah its bad it has those connotations but its possible theyre asking a completely different racist question that accidentally is asking about roma instead of black people
depends on slavic language but im told russian is like that. in czechia the word has different connotations (which are usually still bad/somewhat racist depending on the word), i can confirm that as a czech speaker (though i am from a minority dialect, am a citizen, and do not speak czech to people all the time... so take with grain of salt). so probably accounts for the percentage there
No idea, apparently a lot of surveys reported a difference between "are you okay with interracial marriages in general" vs "are you okay with someone in your own family marrying someone of a different ethnicity" but they're a little more aligned in eastern europe. I can tell you the traditional more materialist analysis of racism in the new world where the importation of black slaves and the genocide of the indigenous peoples engendered a systematic racism that has yet to actually be addressed, but I couldn't tell you the materialist source of racism in the former soviet union or warsaw pact - because as far as I know a lot of the history of the early USSR included deliberate attempts at stuff like Belarussification and Ukrainization they called nativization or whatever under Lenin, but I don't think they would have deliberately engendered any anti-black racism. The USSR was certainly pro decolonization in Africa. Maybe it's a hangover from some of the colour revolutions and CIA shit they were pulling after 1991??
The USSR was always fighting against its own internal reactionaries at a structural level. Basically every institution had strict quotas for representation from the member republics, representation of women, etc to prevent domination by men or Russians - quotas which were done away with when the Union was destroyed, leading directly to the sorry state of political representation in Eastern Europe today. African Americans who visited the USSR tend to report being treated very well by the people there, but it's also true that there wasn't much of a flow of Africans into the Soviet Union and that kind of racism spikes when immigration starts happening (though it also tends to return to the norm once the immigrant population has had time to be integrated). It's also worth noting that the USSR didn't have freedom of speech, and one of the things that was allowed to run rampant after the introduction of liberalism was hate speech, which undoubtedly radicalized a bunch of people who were looking for a group to hate in the desperate times of the 90s.
Lastly, basically every formerly communist place sees a big right wing reaction once the commies lose power. Some of that is natural as the bourgeois reasserts itself, but a lot of it is undeniably because reactionaries get a lot of funding from capitalist countries as a counter to leftists.
The US did finance and support fascists in Eastern Europe, who took over when they destroyed the Soviet Union...
And those people were xenophobic and elitist and all that.
It's probably just good old fashioned stereotypes and prejudice. Provincialism and ignorance doesn't require capitalism or chattel slavery.
I'm going to say with full confidence that the numbers for Spain are complete and utter bullshit, lol. Really, the country that tries to rival Italy when it comes to monkey chants directed towards black footballers is 89% ok with interracial marriage?
Same with the Nordic. It's a dumb fucking 4chan meme that the region is some kind of progressive haven, in reality they're racist as fuck.
It’s a dumb fucking 4chan meme that the region is some kind of progressive haven, in reality they’re racist as fuck.
They think the entire West is a progressive haven lol
A lot of North Africans think of themselves as Arabians first and Africans second.
It's always a heated topic of discussion on any African based internet forum, with sub Saharan, central and western Africans getting into it with north Africans. The biggest flare up of this discussion lately was around the AFCON football/soccer tournament, with regards to bias and so on.
It makes sense. The Sahara desert is much more real, on a human scale, than arbitrary continental divisions based on geology. Historically it makes a lot more sense to consider Egypt, Morroco, Spain, and southern France to be part of the same region than it does to include Tunisia with Ghana.
arab is the ethnic category. arabian is a mostly outdated term for someone from the arabian peninsula, who would more likely describe themselves in terms of their nationality (i.e., saudi or yemeni)
what others said is true but like there is 200% some kinda fuckery going on with the survey, mistranslation/interpretation or whatever--different definitions/categories of "black"
like more than 1% of libya is 'black', lmao
what others said is true but like there is 200% some kinda fuckery going on with the survey, mistranslation/interpretation or whatever
Maybe they did the old "Black Lives"/"Blue Lives" switcharoo, like with that Irish Cop who didn't know Gaelic and put "Gorm Chónaí Ábhar’" under a black-and-blue shamrock.
based north africans not allowing their children to marry cops :deng-salute:
Yeah the Arabs rode all the way from the Arabian Peninsula to Spain in about two hundred years. They barely even slowed down long enough to collect taxes. They would have conquered Europe except the Franks finally got their shit together in early-mid 700s and stopped them in north east Iberia.
Those slave markets that people always bring up about Libya after the US destroyed it were enslaving black African migrants.
honestly feels like actual stormfront propaganda meant to convince us of the eastern europeans holding down the extra racism for the white race
yeah a reverse image search shows mostly hits from twitter and 4chan archivers with some reddit sprinkled in (cw red scare subreddit) (there's a comment debunking it but it still has over 200 le updoots)
actual stormfront propaganda
CIA Factbook
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Although, I really like the suggestion that only 3% of Moroccans would let their daughter marry... someone from Morocco?
Italy and Eastern Europe definitely track from what I've heard from POC that have visited there unfortunately.
Though for good news, apparently Turkey is also accurate according to them, though it can get a tiny bit oriental at times, it's definitely 100 times preferable to most of Europe. So good job Turkey!
Did I type this right?
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/tgm/table.do?tab=table&language=en&pcode=teilm021&tableSelection
the dataset with the same code as in the URL is about unemployment lmao this is straight up fabricated
honestly source: [some long URL without even a name of the study or organization] is a good indicator that you don't expect your sources to be checked
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/teilm021/default/table?lang=en This map is complete BS lol. This is data for unemployment
I mean Italy was one of the homes of fascism in Europe and is still filled with fascist groups, a lot of them were tied in with the CIA (operation gladio) and football clubs.
That tracks with racism being a larger issue
Europe spent most of it's history engaged in bloody internecine warfare that drove the worldwide development of military technology for almost five hundred years. When people hate themselves that much it's not much wonder they hate everyone else, too.
bloody internecine warfare
This is why I don't understand white nationalists
Bro look at yourselves like shit wasn't going great for you when it was all honkies either lmao
Italy tried, and failed, to conquer Ethiopia because the fash thought they had to conquer a chunk of Africa to be a real European power. I doubt their depictions of Ethiopians in propaganda were very flattering.
the only thing this proves is that eastern europeans are more honest
Hardly even that. It just proves the folks drawing the map didn't bother to check the African portion of the population in African states.
Might as well claim 9% of Egyptians wouldn't approve of their daughter marrying a Muslim as a black man. Its obvious bullshit.
Crazy that there are two "1% yes" countries like that is incredible
