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    • RNAi [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Did someone really cared about her accusations? Did her bullshit act really swayed someone away from Bernie and to Biden?

      • Homestar440 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Sure they did, average libs care deeply about whatever they’re told to care about, so for about a day, it was super important to a certain, unfortunately vast, section of voters.

        My brother and I got into a very indicative argument a few days after Bernie’s heart attack where he was absolutely hammering the talking point that he didn’t come out and say it early enough, and how dishonest that made sanders, yada yada. It never came up again after that day though.

      • BoxedFenders [any, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        She played a much bigger role as the "progressive" spoiler in 2016 and crippled Bernie's momentum against Hillary in several key early states. By 2020, the damage was already done and the party was better prepared to mobilize for their favored candidate.

          • BoxedFenders [any, comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            Everyone was waiting for her to endorse Bernie for the MA primary which eventually went to Hillary in an extremely tight contest. The consensus at the time was that because Warren was touted as a progressive, she would naturally support Bernie. Her refusal was a tipping point in the race.

            • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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              3 years ago

              Ah, yeah, we were all waiting on her to endorse, but can't say I agree it would've made that much of a difference in 2016. He had an uphill battle the entire time. It was totally fucked up when it came out afterwards that she spent a considerable amount of time advising the Clinton campaign, while claiming to remain neutral, but his reach outside the youth vote was always going to be a fight when he still had so little name recognition on the national stage. He would've killed it in the general though... if the Dem party rallied around him.

              • BoxedFenders [any, comrade/them]
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                3 years ago

                Sure, Sanders would probably have lost even with Warren's endorsement, but her silence was a calculated kneecapping of Bernie's momentum at a critical junction. Her favorability has suffered so much in recent years that we forget just how influential she was at the time. In hindsight, it was foolishly naive of us to assume she was a Sanders ally just because they aligned superficially on a few populist issues. And yeah, he would have slayed in the general. But alas... :flattened-bernie:

      • D61 [any]
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        3 years ago

        Nope, but it gave libs ammunition to bully Bernie voters and fence sitters.