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  • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Kind of makes sense. In India we say Non-Veg to mean meat and Veg to mean not meat.

    A meal of rice and lentils would be Veg. No vegetables though. Since vegetarians can eat it.

    No idea what Kellogg's is trying to sell though

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      No idea what Kellogg’s is trying to sell though

      Seems like they're fighting off a legitimately frivolous lawsuit.

      • Wheaties [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        No, 'veggies' has usually meant vegetables. Like, fruits & veggies or "Eat all your veggies before you can play outside". If this does get thrown out, it'll become just another meaningless marketing word. Like "diet".

        • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Veggie has meant "lacks meat" for a long time now as well. When I buy a "veggie" Jamaican patty or a "veggie" burger, I fully expect it to be made using black beans or TVP, or other plant matter that isnt necessarily literally a vegetable. A reasonable consumer should be able to distinguish when veggie indicates vegetarian and when veggie indicates vegetable, unless there is a clear grammatical ambiguity I don't see any reason why that shouldn't be the case.

          Edit: yeah, all the products listed very clearly go this route. This is as crazy as when food manufacturers tried to claim that vegan alternatives of mayo and dairy milk were being misleading by using the term mayo or milk when they are very clearly labeled. Seems frivolous to me.

          • Wheaties [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            Nah, that's gonna confuse the hell out of a lot of people. It's only something you'd know if you were already buying the meat-flavored stuff. People who weren't already are only gonna see that there's another food packaging word they can no longer trust to mean what they think it does.

            • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              What harm is done by people who would not purchase vegetarian seeing packaging and thinking it's literally a vegetable burger instead of a vegetarian burger? What is the likelihood that someone completely unaware that "veggie X" is in common parlance would purchase a veggie burger based on this confusion? I don't think a person who is a "reasonable consumer" in any meaningful sense would be put in the position of making an erroneous purchase based on this, so I don't see why literally every vegetarian product would need to change to accommodate them.

              This is a legal case, the question they have to decide is whether consumers are being misled to the point of making erroneous purchases, and potentially have suffered personal or financial harm. The question isn't about whether in some abstract sense this harms the public's trust in food labeling.

        • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          A vegetarian is not someone who eats vegetables or someone who only eats vegetables. It is someone who does not eat meat.

    • bentwookie [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      morningstar farm products, owned by kelloggs, which are vegetarian meat analogues like burgers, corn dogs, bacon, sausage, etc, etc. mostly made of TVP/processed soy protein

        • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Nutritionally speaking, grains are starches, along with starchy tubers like potatoes. Vegetables tend to be the non-starchy, non-reproductive parts of plants like non-starchy roots, leaves, and immature flowers (plus the occasional fruit like tomatoes, eggplants, and peppers).