I mean, basically the whole family is going to jail the moment their dad is out of office. We know it, and they know it. Trump himself has been sowing seeds to declare a loss illegitimate, and for years now he's occasionally joked that it'd be super cool for America to have a president for life like all the dictators he looks up to. So does anybody really think that in the event of a Biden win, Trump's gonna just give up the office without a fight and wait for the noose to tighten around his, and his children's, necks? There's gonna be a huge electoral fracas at the very least. There could be a lot of fash violence too. I don't really think it'll spark Civil War 2 by itself but it could certainly help. It seems to me like a lot of folks here talking about a Biden presidency are ignoring the minor hurdle of getting Trump to cede power in the first place.

  • kennystrife [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    You're right about all the Dem corruption but Trump has pissed off way too many powerful people to get off scott-free. Even if Biden broke his promise and pardoned Trump, he and his whole family are involved in financial crimes in New York state that the NYAG has been chomping at the bit to prosecute.

    • Darkmatter2k [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      "doubt"

      I've lived to long to believe these fairy tales of justice existing or having any consequences for powerfull people under capitalism.

      • kennystrife [he/him]
        10·
        4 years ago

        Consequences happen all the time for powerful people who piss off other powerful people. Look at Martin Shkreli. I'm not talking about justice being done at all.

        • Darkmatter2k [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Not sure I agree on that one, Martin Shkreli wasn't imprisoned because the broke the law and hurt poor people, he was jailed because he defrauded rich investors (the billionaire class) promising returns he could never deliver. He was not a powerfull person, he was a small time grifter that got destroyed when he tried to play in the big league.

          • kennystrife [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Trump spent most of his life grifting rich people in NYC until they stopped investing in his businesses or giving him loans. Then he went from two-bit con artist nobody cared about to US president and his dirty laundry was suddenly very interesting to a lot of rich folk. If poor people benefit it's not because that was the intention.