• Omega_Haxors [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Could I get a summary? I'm interested enough to know the answer but not enough to actually watch the video.

    • tetrabrick [xey/xem, she/her]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      people wanna experiment gender without being call out(trans and not trans), lots of early models were like that, people do it because other do( to addapt to new enviorement).

      • Kestrel [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        I'd say it's also, for some people (whether they realize it or not) a more accessible form of gender expression than crossdressing.

        • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Can confirm, I was born a girl but found myself using male avatars a lot because they felt right. Am now non-binary. :hexbear-non-binary:

          • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]
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            3 years ago

            :sankara-salute: We love our feathered enby friends, don't we folks? :hexbear-non-binary:

          • riley
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            1 year ago

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        • VernetheJules [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Lol I was so repressed I would never pick femme characters because deep down I knew that was what I wanted for myself. I didn't want to give myself an inch in experimentation or else I'd risk opening the floodgates. Crossdressing was even more of a no-no for the same reasons.

          So yeah I totally believe that.

          • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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            3 years ago

            I would always pick female characters in games, but otherwise I was the same- I avoided femme presentation in all other contexts because I was so scared that, like, what happens if I like it? What does it reveal about me?

            The irony of ascribing THAT much power to presentation, though, is that at one point I worked up courage to try a dress, expecting to either feel repulsed or like it was 100% correct, only to find that, like, it was just a piece of clothing. The fact that it didn't have the innate power I was expecting ironically ended up delaying my realization that I was trans by like 5 years.

        • ssjmarx [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I think that "digital expression" is its own thing. I've never had the urge to crossdress irl, but I always play girls in MMOs, and I know a lot of other guys like that (it's the plurality in FF14, with over half of the players playing as catgirls). I dunno if there's any research into this though it's just the vibe I get.

          • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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            3 years ago

            Worth mentioning that the video makes a distinction about this. There's a very real and noted difference between how people conceive of characters in traditional games vs avatars in VR, especially in VR setups with enough presence

              • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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                3 years ago

                Basically, the degree to which VR is able to make you feel like you're genuinely in a different reality.

                • ugly_disabled_cishet [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  No doubt every setup in existence doesn't even live up to the immersiveness of Vr.5. Does VR chat force a first person perspective? And is that enough or not even necessary to be "enough presence"? What level of setup broke the barrier for you?

                  • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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                    3 years ago

                    Hell if I know, I've only done VR once and that was just to try Beatsaber lol

            • ssjmarx [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              I haven't gotten a chance to watch it yet, but it does sound interesting.

      • jabrd [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        And I’m just over here masquerading as a utahraptor