I'm imagining a crab with the head of an anime girl and now I'm scared
the ultimate lifeform :sicko-crab:
:commiku:
:hex-crab-chapo:
When you're trans, I think it's different. It's using the mask of an object of desire vs. actually desiring to take the form of the mask. Though tbh, I think the association with weebs is why a lot of us migrated to using more personalized picrews and oc art.
until science discovers the "cis" gene, their existence remains theoretical
honestly yeah. I feel more like a cis boy than a cis man. IDK how to explain that really but I just mean the idea of being a man has so much baggage I don't know if that's how I feel but I was born in a masculine body and that feels right, although i wish I didn't have to shave every day.
Damn, this comment fucked me up. I think that's about the closest I'd be able to come to personally understanding dysphoria.
Shaving sucks. I want to be able to turn off the body hair gene, please.
I'm fine with body hair,but facial hair is so frustrating. Gotta put a knife against my skin every day. Too close and I cut myself, too far away and I look sloppy.
Sounds accurate. The only person I know who plays vr chat gets drunk on cheap whiskey and has an anime girl avatar
i say this without judgement, but i think you might be a normie
YES COME, BROTHERS AND SISTERS, JOIN US AND GRILL! :grillman: :grill:
The public spaces on VRChat are generally garbage due to kids, trolls, creepers, etc. It’s way better once you find existing communities and/or meetups. https://vrchatevents.com/ Has a decent list of stuff going on and I can personally vouch for Trivia Temple being fun.
And with their eyeballs popping out of their head, banging on tables.
There’s a vaguely black mage looking character that’s a default avatar and I use it most f the time.
Sometimes you just wanna be Lulu or Y’shtola and blow up things with Fire IV
Could I get a summary? I'm interested enough to know the answer but not enough to actually watch the video.
people wanna experiment gender without being call out(trans and not trans), lots of early models were like that, people do it because other do( to addapt to new enviorement).
I'd say it's also, for some people (whether they realize it or not) a more accessible form of gender expression than crossdressing.
Can confirm, I was born a girl but found myself using male avatars a lot because they felt right. Am now non-binary. :hexbear-non-binary:
:sankara-salute: We love our feathered enby friends, don't we folks? :hexbear-non-binary:
Lol I was so repressed I would never pick femme characters because deep down I knew that was what I wanted for myself. I didn't want to give myself an inch in experimentation or else I'd risk opening the floodgates. Crossdressing was even more of a no-no for the same reasons.
So yeah I totally believe that.
I would always pick female characters in games, but otherwise I was the same- I avoided femme presentation in all other contexts because I was so scared that, like, what happens if I like it? What does it reveal about me?
The irony of ascribing THAT much power to presentation, though, is that at one point I worked up courage to try a dress, expecting to either feel repulsed or like it was 100% correct, only to find that, like, it was just a piece of clothing. The fact that it didn't have the innate power I was expecting ironically ended up delaying my realization that I was trans by like 5 years.
I think that "digital expression" is its own thing. I've never had the urge to crossdress irl, but I always play girls in MMOs, and I know a lot of other guys like that (it's the plurality in FF14, with over half of the players playing as catgirls). I dunno if there's any research into this though it's just the vibe I get.
Worth mentioning that the video makes a distinction about this. There's a very real and noted difference between how people conceive of characters in traditional games vs avatars in VR, especially in VR setups with enough presence
I haven't gotten a chance to watch it yet, but it does sound interesting.
I've never done vr (games or chat). Explain this "presence" to me?
Basically, the degree to which VR is able to make you feel like you're genuinely in a different reality.
No doubt every setup in existence doesn't even live up to the immersiveness of Vr.5. Does VR chat force a first person perspective? And is that enough or not even necessary to be "enough presence"? What level of setup broke the barrier for you?
Hell if I know, I've only done VR once and that was just to try Beatsaber lol
I haven't watched the video yet but I do kind of want to put my own two cents in.
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It's irony. "Anime girl = le funny may-may".
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IIRC female characters tend to get different outfits and stuff like that. This gives one the freedom to try different outfits without really crossdressing.
IIRC female characters tend to get different outfits and stuff like that.
NGL this is a huge issue in every game. Female characters can wear traditionally male outfits and armor, but also lots of dresses, more varied shapes of armor, and sometimes even basic shit like long coats and shit male characters don't have access to.
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Also in an intangible world, there are no downsides to being a woman and no benefits for a masculine body.
Hate and harrassment? There's a reason women hide their gender on the internet.
Yup. Try playing an online game with a generic g*mer username, and then change your username to a "girly" one. The tone of 99% of your interactions immediately changes.
I remember the first time I played a game online and offered to turn voice chat on because it was faster then typing the first thing that was said was "You know guys only want to speak to a girl if they want sex, right? Why bother?"
If people find out you are a dog on a forum or anonymous social media you will never hear the end of it. Expect to be harassed for your identity no matter who you are if you are foolish enough to reveal any personal aspects. Everyone gets trolled online.
Are you really going to tell me these cishet "staring at an ass for 60 lvls" chuds use female avatars in solidarity with women?
If people find out you are a dog on a forum or anonymous social media you will never hear the end of it. Expect to be harassed for your identity no matter who you are
thank you for recognizing my struggle 😞
What? No I don't think they do it for solidarity? Most people think they're dudes anyway? I wasn't talking about that.
How is gender a "personal" detail? When was the last time someone rold you to get back into the kitchen for having a male voice in an online game? Trust me, there's a reason I don't turn voice chat on in online games but if I had a male voice I wouldn't think twice because that shit doesn't get you harassed. Are you going to tell me sexism doesn't exist next?
Girls get called basement dwellers too dipshit. Yeah, no, those arn't the same. Fuck off. :cringe:
It's funny you should mention women switching to male avatars to avoid rape, because when I played online games I would pretend to be a dude because I would get treated better.
Theres more to sexism then rape, is what I'm saying. Men that use female avatars in VR chat get to avoid the worst parts of sexism because everyone assumes they're male until proven otherwise "there are no women on the internet, tits or GTFO" is how the old saying goes, isn't it?
I dunno dude I think we're talking about two different things. Can attraction to anime girls be called benevolent sexism if no one looks like an anime girl in real life?
Wouldn't that be like saying furries get benevolent sexism too because they're also cute?
No one looks like Jenna Jameson irl either but people react to her body in a sexual manner regardless. You are far off into the weeds if you are going to ignore the unreality of VR and the utility of large expressive, clear eyes and skin and how people will more easily interact with fictitious nonthreatening figures with exaggerated markers of health and beauty more readily than with an uncanny valley monstrosity.
And yes, people will want to fuck the cute bunny cop and are thus more likely to interact with her avatar than with a mangy, three-legged dog avatar. The lack of diseased and disabled avatars is disgustingingly ableist is it not?
Large eyes are a neotenous feature
If the cishet gender-switchers were all chomos then they'd sport 3000 year old dragon loli avatars, so I don't think neoteny is the primary function here. More likely large eyes serve a utility function being highly expressive. But the shape is also an indicator of health, they don't have bug-eyed, hairy, bloodshot, cataract clouded eyes for good reason.
imagine spending all day being a total bazinga brain on a forum you hate full of people that literally don’t give a fuck about you lol 😂
It’s not that people like to interact with beautiful/cute people. It’s that men like to interact with beautiful/cute women.
There's really no need to genderize this behavior. People of both genders are more likely to ignore a wheelchair bound leper avatar in favor of interacting with an anime cat girl, gay/hetero/cis or not.
it's a mix of both your comments. It's a thing in VR chat that practically none of the girls are irl girls. For the player it's keyhole glimpse into seeing yourself as a girl without having to be seen as a girl. They don't receive the full sexist treatment that a girl gamer would.
lol that comment didn't deserve a delete tho
