• Slaanesh [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    What would voting for the dems this year do in relation to Roe v Wade? The dems have the power to stop it. They have had the power to protect abortion rights for decades. Why would they do anything different now.

    All these analysts have said the conservitives wouldn't actually go through overturning it because it's a great wedge issue. But again the ball is in their court "My leftist opponent would legalize abortions!".

    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      What would voting for the dems this year do in relation to Roe v Wade? The dems have the power to stop it.

      "B-but Manchin and Sinema. We just need a couple more senators, then we can fix things for sure."

      • Slaanesh [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        More boss babes in cute skirts! Libs are now calling for sanctions against red states. That'll forsure help the People facing the brunt of this ruling.

        Seriously, if anyone here is affected and can get to Canada easily. You have a free place to stay, with health clinics nearby.

        • ugly_disabled_cishet [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Libs are now calling for sanctions against red states.

          It really is too bad that libs don't carry little pocket constitutions with them, otherwise they would have heard about a little Import-Export Clause that makes this difficult to impossible. Why are Americans so in love with passing performative, anti-constitutional laws?

          • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Why are Americans so in love with passing performative, anti-constitutional laws?

            Because that's what the constitution itself always was

                • ugly_disabled_cishet [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  The constitution cannot be performative because until the state withers away, it is what dictates material conditions in the US.

                  Saying otherwise is pure ideology.

                    • ugly_disabled_cishet [none/use name]
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                      3 years ago

                      Politicians knowingly violating the constitution are just seeing how far they can bend the powers of government to their will. Shibboleth's to the constitution are performative, the document is not. At times the document enshrined racialized slavery, alcohol prohibition, and other ills. As written, punitive slavery is still legal and good. The law can grant further rights that don't exist in the constitution but it cannot violate the document. It is not the concept of the constitution that drives America, America is the constitution and very little else.

              • Wertheimer [any]
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                3 years ago

                The Articles of Confederation were illegally overturned, according to the true originalists.

                • ugly_disabled_cishet [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  Sorry sweaty, but losers don't get to write history. The Articles of Confederation had defects incompatible with life. Their government was delivered stillborn so the founding fathers set to conceiving a new one. It was either that or perish in a revolution or civil war.

                  • Wertheimer [any]
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                    3 years ago

                    Pretty disrespectful of them to value their own lives more highly than a sacred document.

      • Neckbeard_Prime [they/them,he/him]
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        3 years ago

        :maybe-later-kiddo: Sorry, sweaty, the Senate Parliamentarian says we can't legislate Federal-level reproductive rights!

    • GreatWhiteNope [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      The lib argument would be that if we can get a dem supermajority, they could codify it into law.

      This assumes that 60 democratic senators would vote to guarantee abortion as a right and that the Supreme Court would not overturn the law.

      It’s true that they could have done this in 2008, but maybe Roe actually being overturned would make them feel it’s necessary now.

      So lots of wishful thinking essentially.

      • Slaanesh [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        It was a political move to not codify it into law. And if they gave a shit it would have been a bad move not to do so. Now they need to either put the issue aside or run on pro abortion rights. Neither is politically beneficial to them. Dems continue to be their own worst enemy.