Nazis can only exist in countries with zero Jews, like Germany in the 1920s.
https://archive.ph/sjRyd
"I have many relatives in Russia. They start telling me that we have a lot of Nazis," says Dmytro. "I tell them, if this is true, then I am also a Nazi. You can kill me too."
Impeccable logic.
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Ukraine doesn't have any Nazis, that's Russian Propaganda
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How could Zelensky win the Presidency if Ukraine hosted Nazis?
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Ukraine has Nazis, but they're not significant enough to matter
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Ukraine's Nazis are a necessary evil
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Russia = The Wagner Group, so they're both Nazis
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Putin is Hitler
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Putin is worse than Hitler
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If Hitler were alive today, we'd support him against Russia
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Nazism is good, because it opposes Russia
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Nazism is good
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Nazism doesn't go far enough
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The common excuse i see in Western media rn is that Azov is now under new management. No, that's literally what they're saying, the bad nazi guy who used to be in charge is gone and now they're part of the national guard, so they're not nazis anymore. That's the entire argument for how they've whitewashed a group that has spent the last 8 years with violent hate crimes against LGBT and Roma people to be the heroic defenders of Mariupol, that one bad guy was removed so now they're cool.
It’s crazy how when the Nazi leader left, all the members’ SS and Nazi symbol tattoos disappeared from their bodies, and all the paraphernalia disappeared and all the members became woke and good
It's honestly wild how they can't keep AZOV guys off the front page of the news. I was skeptical about how much influence the fash had in Ukraine but like every few days on /r/Ukraine there's another guy front and center with a Black Sun or something prominently displayed on his uniform, and the article is a glowing piece on how brave and heroic these guys are. Maybe /r/Ukraine is just insanely pro-fash, but it's fucking weird that they turn up so much if it really is just a few thousand guys in the entire country. And I've heard that when they "De-Nazified" Azob what actually happened was Azov guys got sent to lots of other units in authority roles and started pushing fash shits in those units, spreading their influence.
but it’s fucking weird that they turn up so much if it really is just a few thousand guys in the entire country.
And what's interesting about the "just a few thousand guys" rhetoric is that it ignores several other similar groups/parties like Kraken battalion, Svoboda, Right sector, etc. These groups coordinate and ally with each other pretty well. Then there's just the fact that the Ukrainian center-right is astonishingly good at whitewashing these groups for American media consumption. The black suns make it in but if you weren't keen on noticing things like that you'd be just like the libs who think these guys are based freedom fighters. There's photos of Oleg Tyahnybok, Svoboda leader, sieg heiling and also photos of him hanging out with Victoria Nuland, John McCain, and Amy Klobuchar. The Ukrainian far right is absolutely propped up by the USA. What I wish Americans understood is that there has been a Ukrainian civil war for 8 years, twice the length of the American one. Donbass has been subjected to shelling, assassinations, etc. Crimea voted to become part of Russia by referendum rather than being militarily annexed. When DPR/LPR tried to become autonomous within Ukraine, the civil war started. The East half of the country speaks Russian and Russian-Ukrainian hybrid dialects. A minority also speaks Greek. It is the West half of the country, near the Polish border, where most of the Bandera monuments are, where all the hardcore Ukrainian nationalists are, where most of the people pushing to ban the Russian language are, etc. The ethnic cleansing has been happening in the East, on behalf of the West. This has been a cold-war style proxy war for decades. The CIA has been doing its utmost to nazify Ukraine since the early 50s by supporting Banderist groups like the OUN and even smuggling Bandera out of Ukraine to protect him. America's role in this is so much more subtle than Russia's, because it is being conducted clandestinely, from across the Ocean, for decades, in Langley VA. That's what's fucked up. America can fuck with Ukraine 10,000 times but nobody notices, because they do it in subtle and clandestine ways. Putin was not subtle. That is why the world cried out in anger.
Just one correction; The DPR and LPR didn't vote to join Russia. They voted to become an autonomous part of Ukraine. From what I understand they didn't want to secede, they wanted to keep the Russian language spoken by the majority and reduce the influence of the extremely hostile and Ukrainian Nationalist coup government.
Thanks for the correction. That's an important distinction. I will edit my post to reflect what you said.
I'm pretty sure they're full on secessionists. Like you said, they never voted to join Russia, but they wanted sovereignty, not mere autonomy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Donbas_status_referendums
"Do you support the Act of State Self-rule of the Donetsk People's Republic?" (89% Yes)
Do you support the declaration of state independence of the Luhansk People's Republic? (96% Yes)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donetsk_People%27s_Republic
The Donetsk People's Republic is a breakaway state [...]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luhansk_People%27s_Republic
The Luhansk People's Republic is a breakaway state [...]
Klob can be seen at 0:45, wearing glasses on the left.
You're right about the "international community" meme that they push to legitimize imperial core propaganda
it’s hard to bring up CIA interference without sounding like Alex Jones to those people.
even though I cite sources, like the CIA's declassified documents on project aerodynamic. There are real documents that actually exist and are available on the CIA website attest to the significant cooperation with OUN and other Banderist groups starting in the early 50s. I suppose a lot of people think stuff like that stopped after the Church Committee but the CIA scrapped its overt methodology and replaced it with a more subversive model that outsourced to the NED and other think tanks.
I've also shown people testimonies from Mariupol where people talk about being used as human shields, and the national guard stationing artillery in residential areas. But I keep being told these people are liars because of who's interviewing them (Telegram channels, Pat Lancaster on Youtube, RT, etc.)
I have many relatives in Canada. They start telling me that we have a lot of corn fields in Iowa. I tell them, if this is true, then I am also a corn field. You can harvest me too.
Yeah, Ukrainian Jews have been seeking protection from the ascendant right for decades now. That's why Zelensky won and Poroshenko lost. It's a shame he's a figurehead and can't actually do anything to curttail the fascist excesses of the Ukrainian National Guard, who run the show with the explicit support of the USA and the NED. He ran as a peace candidate, and was against banning the Russian language, and was in favor of leaving Donbass alone, and bringing the Civil War to an end, but it became very clear after he won who was really in charge. His entire mood changed. He banned 11 left opposition parties but allowed Svoboda and Right sector to stay. He was wishy washy on the Banderists when interviewed saying "they are what they are" and "Bandera to some is a hero. that's normal. that's cool." A right sector leader, Dmitro Korchynsky was interviewed saying "I was disappointed the Ukrainian people elected a jew. But I quickly realized he was unprincipled and willing to work with us."
It's only Nazism if it comes from the Nuremberg region of Germany, otherwise it's just sparkling capitalist decay
