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  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    3 years ago

    A lot of people talk about this on Tiktok. It's... It's not good. I'm not sure how you can do this to your kids without having them taken away from you by CPS, but that's America I guess.

  • anaesidemus [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    This whole thing is one of the worst things I've ever read. I felt mentally exhausted for days after it. I wish it was fiction.

    • RION [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I had the same experience, especially with the mental haze afterward. Being held against my will and nobody believing me is a pretty big fear of mine so I guess that makes sense.

  • Glass [he/him,they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I had a few friends growing up who would just vanish one day, only to find out later they had "gone to Provo". I went to a high school for kids with "disciplinary issues" (massive jerkoff motion) and everyone knew at least one person that had been abducted in the middle of the night to one of these camps. Some people came back more or less okay after several months, some came back fucked up, some did not come back.

  • ItsPequod [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Started reading this sometime last year and I couldnt finish because the stress was making me feel ill, just reading about that place makes me quiver in fury.

  • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
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    3 years ago

    I listened to the Behind the Bastards episode on this a while back and it still haunts me. Unbelievably fucked up

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    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Because fascists love the idea of reacting to "crime" with violence. They fully believe that good things will happen if just you're tough enough to the bad people below you. They even think violence and humiliation is an appropriate way of dealing with your own kids. Fucking psychos.

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      • Neckbeard_Prime [they/them,he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Huh, TIL:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KND_bBDE8RQ

        Not only sensationalized, but yeah, the "guards" were encouraged to be extra cruel, and a few just ran with it. Vsauce interviews one of them in this video.

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        In the linked comic, the author makes the connection to the Stanford experiment and explicitly brings this up. His theory is that the experimenter got just as wrapped up in the role of the abuser as the prison staff did, and that only intervention from outside was able to snap him out of it and get the experiment ended.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I think that's a pretty standard interpretation now. Everyone was playing the role that was expected of them, with the professor unintentionally egging them on.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Parents have basically unlimited rights to do whatever they want to their child as long as it doesn't leave marks. CPS is supposed to prevent abuse but between institutional racism, limits on their oversight, and vicious suburban and evangelical parents there's very strong limits on what CPS can actually achieve.

      I mean homeschooling is legal, cops in schools sending 12 year olds to prison because they got in a fight is legal, the US prison system routinely uses torture to the point where European countries won't extradite here. The US is the bad place.

  • CARCOSA [mirror/your pronouns]A
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    3 years ago

    A beloved and missed comrade wrote on this horrific industry, thank you for letting us in on your experiences and knowledge @rozako

    https://hexbear.net/post/95434

  • barrbaric [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I went into this knowing the camps are fucked up but this is so bad that I almost don't believe it's real. Holy shit.

  • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
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    3 years ago

    Between the recent systematic attack on the rights of trans youth and this, I think it should be well known that minors literally have as much as rights as animals and are technically private property for all practical purpose.

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    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Knowing that if you take in a trans runaway you're risking arrest for "kidnapping" or whatever else they try to pin on you has always been very sobering.

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      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        It still happens. Nothing has changed. There are a lot of very young people in Tiktok who talk about these places and based on their age they would have only gotten out a few years ago.

  • Discopanda [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Jesus this is so fucked up. What kind of people are getting out from this kind of facility? It's just beyond comprehension that something like this could function legally.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I remember hearing about those kids, and my immediate thoughts on the matter was what did the foster home do to them, and what had the cops done to them.

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Remember, our enemies are ontologically evil and there is no act against them which is immoral.