:thinkin-lenin: but why though?
My prediction, if we're giving serious answers: I think Trump's impeachment started what will become a chain reaction - any time the opposition party takes a majority, the president will be impeached, but not convicted.
Over and over and over again. Not long, it'll be the standard that each president is impeached at least once, but not removed. Libs will continue to cry about rules and civility. Chuds will....i dunno, do something.
Started with Nixon, then the GOP was still mad about it with Clinton, then they did it to Trump and I bet yeah you're right the seal is broken now and we should expect the ritual impeachment in every presidents term.
I believe that in the far future congress will become the main seat of power. The speaker of the house will hold more power than the presidency, libs will shoot themselves in the foot by empowering the Supreme Court, and we will still have the constitution for some reason.
The future you speak of is closer than you think. I truly believe if it were to ever come down to Bernie vs Trump (or proxies thereof), the establishment players would vote to abolish the presidency.
I truly believe if it were to ever come down to Bernie vs Trump (or proxies thereof), they’d abolish the presidency.
No, they'd just elect Trump lol. why wouldn't they do that (again)?
Bernie would have been a Trump figure if he got elected. I think we were misled by the pied pipers of the dirt bag left into supporting him. Now he's too old to run.
Can you expand upon this idea? I understand the feeling that Bernie would ultimately have been sort of ineffectual in the grand scheme of things, but I highly doubt he'd be a looming threat to marginalized people the way Trump was.
I think Bernie could've been effectual, even if moderately. I think we just have no idea what it looks like for someone like that to get elected president so it's hard to picture.
If he had the guts he could just abuse the fuck out of executive orders, as could anyone. Trump demonstrated that you can, the only reason the dems don't is that they're fucking losers, they use "norms" as an excuse not to use the powers but won't actually remove those powers as it enables the baddies that they're secretly in collusion with to do whatever the fuck they want when they've got power.
I think a Sanders presidency would ultimately lay bare the truth about how powerless the president actually is and just how much the DNC and RNC agree on.
yea, but I'm not sure how many people would notice. like Congress just decided to ignore Trump after J6 and the military command refused to take his orders - yet how many people are talking about that coup? how many people are even aware that it happened?
I don't think Bernie would have been ineffectual as president in 2016 or 2020, he just would be controversial. Let's start with the big issue, Israel. He would firmly be for a two state solution, he wouldn't support an Israeli apartheid but he definitely wouldn't have a stance that would please the left or right. You know how Trump visited North Korea to inflate his own ego? I would suspect Bernie would go to Tel Aviv, meet with Palestinian leaders, meet with Israeli leaders, and broker something resembling peace. I don't think Israel and Palestine would have bombed each other with Bernie as president but I doubt he would have gone to North Korea like Trump did.
As for other things he would do differently than Trump or Biden, he wouldn't of assassinated that Iranian general, he would of pissed off Saudi Arabia when they killed that journalist on US soil, he would have stayed in the Paris climate accords (not that it mattered), not him exactly but the media wouldn't have a figure like Trump to report on 24/7, Assange would probably be free right now since the Obama administration was afraid to touch him and the only reason why he got arrested was that he pissed off Trump and I doubt Bernie would have beef with him. Covid is just a wild card, I doubt he would handle it well, it blindsided the world, I think his pro-lockdown stance would be tested and that would be the reason why he would lose the election, one consequence of that is the Republicans would most definitely be open to vaccines because no qanon bullshit and they would blame China a lot more than they do now. If anything the anti vaccine people would be more lib and pro lockdown in the bernie timeliness. If bernie was elected in 2020 he would do better than Biden hands down, so would Trump. Afghanistan was unavoidable but he maybe could avoid Ukraine.
That's enough bullshitting for today.
I think that's a load of baloney. The Dems always do the "I'm just a smol bean President" thing and I'm so sick of it. It's giving everyone brain worms. Let me spit some facts: Every single US war since WWII has been an Executive-initiated "police action." The President has the authority to implement Antitrust action. (This was even done as recently as in 1998 with Microsoft.) The president has the authority to pursue action on white-collar crimes with laws already on the books (that aren't being enforced). Last but not least, the president has a very public platform they can use to appeal to the American public and shame Congress into line. There's a shit ton of stuff a motivated President can do. They just choose not to.
there's assuming that the president is powerless, and assuming that he's all powerful. You're doing the latter. The president is beholden to private business interests, so is congress. If they abuse the power capital gives them they will be removed and limits will be put in place to prevent that abuse from happening again. It took the world wars to codify into law the two term limit after Roosevelt broke tradition, it took however many dead presidents before Kennedy to properly codify a line of succession upon the death of the president. We've already had two presidents in our lifetime win by electoral college, I'm sure capital is getting around to that next.
In very recent memory, Trump had the power to pass a whole bunch of trade tariffs on China, India, Mexico, etc. while he was in office - which is a pretty darn major economic action.
Do you think Congress wanted that? Did he have to get legislative approval? Do you think that made (transnational) capital happy? Did congress restrict the ability of future presidents to take similar actions in future? (No.)
Also, the whole "let's send COVID relief direct payments thing," has been an executive-initiated program each time. Again, another pretty major action that runs contrary to interests of capital. (Though for this, the Paycheck Protection Plan/COVID business grants were a larger carve-out for businesses.)
Unless this is a level 300 comment that flew over my head I think you're wrong
What is the “dirtbag left” in this context? The name gives the impression of something more capable of praxis than a Bernie Bro.
I believe that in the far future congress will become the main seat of power. The speaker of the house will hold more power than the presidency,
This was how the founders intended it and how it was for many decades in American history. I don't think it will go back that way since the presidency has gathered a ton of power since FDR. The whole shtick that the president is powerless is a Democratic dance to push the blame away from doing something. Executive orders are very powerful, even if they are immediately overturned by the next administration.
I don't think they intended that. The presidency was supposed to be powerful from the start, it just wasn't supposed to be elected by popular vote, involve political parties, or touch sensitive issues at the time like slavery. The presidency is responsible for almost every landgrab in US history, congress has been the rubber stamp in the political process a lot more times than the presidency has. The presidency was supposed to be equal to congress and the supreme court, but the only thing keeping it that way was the individual restraint of the president. And when the president stepped out of line legislation would be written to keep the president from doing it again. Basically they came up with the rules as they went along.
I think eventually the power of the president will be diminished so greatly by congress that eventually the speaker of the house will become the de facto leader. I also think democrats will put more justices on the supreme court and make them party affiliated and have terms and be elected and essentially become a second senate and ammendments will become so numerous we will eventually have over 100 of them and they will be passed for the most menial of reasons like "176th ammendment: of the military budget, only x% can go to a specific company when purchasing x y and z".
The reason why I think speaker of the house will replace the president is that there's no term limits, all a person has to do is be in charge of a party and get a supermajority, I think if leftists are going to get power through legitimate means we should look at controlling the house and subverting the democratic party (because let's be honest we ain't gonna get rid of it). Of course simply overthrowing this system is an option too but that would make people angry and avoiding political violence should be a concern.
to actually be respectful and give you a serious answer, i would be absolutely shocked if republicans get a majority but don't at least try to impeach him. i don't really know what it would accomplish but
I'll give you a half serious answer. Nobody likes Biden, not even the people who voted for him. The people who are enthusiastic about him as a leader are pmc vampires and blue checkmark libs. He has the charisma of a wet noodle. People only voted for him because he was not Trump and looking at the situation right now they probably regret it. This is why Jeb will win electoral vote in 2024.
The Republicans, in an earth shattering bout of irony, impeach Joe Biden for letting a million people die of covid.
They also enact legislation to legally change his name to Brandon
The democrats, not knowing when a joke is dead. Rename the 45th president of the United States drumpf to absolutely own him reddit style. John Oliver blows his brains out with a colt 45 on live television.
John Oliver blows his brains out with a colt 45 on live television.
WTF I love this timeline.
publishing a new "the walls are closing in on the Biden admnistration" every week
Tick tick tick….
Although we could just redo the old radlib videos and make money. :kombucha-disgust:
I see absolutely nothing wrong with grifting Republicans with the same material democrats used 4 years ago. Please note I will find it funny if you get murdered for it.
They wouldn’t do that. They would murder me because I was Mexican not because I sold them Democrat’s sloppy seconds. Like all this shit is different sides of the same shit covered coin.
no cause dsa is gonna get a veto-proof supermajority in both houses and save us from fascism
I'm thinking they get rid of biden at the 2 year mark and we get 10 years of kamala. YASS QUEEN SLAY THOSE CHILDREN!
Lol as if :top-cop: could ever win an election. She dropped out before the primaries started. Isn't even popular in her own state.
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I wonder if the FBI agent assigned to monitor me is registered in the DSA…
I had a chilling moment about 6 months after I joined when I realized most of the org would probably enthusiastically support a cop/fascist if they promised universal healthcare and mild climate policies. the intervening years haven't really given me much reason to change my mind.
Every day for the two years he's in office. The Senate won't vote to convict or remove since they don't want a PoC woman on the throne.
they'll do both at the same time and whatever ghoul they found worse than liz cheney will be president
i was thinkgin in 2019/20 after the republicans started focusing on hunter that biden would be impeached by the republicans for hunter's ukraine stuff just like trump was impeached for ukraine stuff. now that tehre's a war on there though i think they might try to find another avenue. they'll find some bullshit if they want to.
