https://np.reddit.com/r/HistoryMemes/comments/uum7oy/and_then_we_wonder_why_theyre_still_struggling/?ref_source=desktop

Don't read the comments.

  • Hoyt [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    a lot of "nigerians" that type exactly like white male american teenagers in those comments who seem to be solely concerned with downplaying the damage of colonialism! weird!

    • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      They could be very online Nigerians. Seems like any non-American that speaks English fluently and spends a lot of time online end up sounding like Americans.

      • machiabelly [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        People in the global south who know english and have reliable internet are typically people who benefit from the current colonial order. No different than someone who grew up in a gated community in the south saying that the founding fathers were good

        • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Pretty much, and they get the American twang from drowning themselves in US culture. I know too many people who hate the country and talk about leaving while consuming American culture all the time with the hope that they can easily immigrate there one day.

          • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
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            3 years ago

            West idolizers operates under the delusion that they will be considered one of the "good ones", unlike the immigrants they see on the news or the already existing minorities in western countries.

            • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Tell me about it. All the "I immigrated the RIGHT WAY" people also admit that their friends still make illegal immigrant jokes to them that they of course laugh off.

          • Teekeeus
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            2 months ago

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    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      It's just the Resource Curse, bro! Its not a colonization problem, bro! Europe brought them civilization and technology and culture, we swear! White Man's Burden! You don't even understand history!

  • NotARobot [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    lmao "not the only reason"

    Fuck off yes it essentially is. If I shoot you and then as you fall to the ground you get a paper cut you're not going to be like "wow gee between the gunshot and the paper cut I am going to bleed out".

    I should have listened. Don't read the comments.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      "for some inexplicable reason African countries have trouble building up their wealth despite all of their resources."

      :stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2:

  • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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    3 years ago

    there's actually a shocking amount of pushback on the 'more expensive to maintain colonies' bullshit, least bad historymemes comment section (looks like the mods had gone in and cleaned it up tho)

    • AnarchoMLDialectic [comrade/them,any]
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      3 years ago

      To some extent it was true. Sometimes the empire was a net positive and sometimes a net negative. It really depended on how much steel they needed to turn into battleships.

      The thing is though that the costs of empire were socialized. Taxes paid for the military and the colonial administration. Often a colony was paying for its own occupation but often it was the British public paying for it as well. These costs were socialized.

      The profit of empire was privatized. Big capital got cheap land, government enforced monopolies, cheap and often actually slave labor, and they got to keep the profits.

      For the British public as a whole often the empire was a net drain. It was never a net drain for the elite of Britain though. For them it was constant and immense profit. So they kept doing it. British imperialism was also extractive from the British workers, although the workers still got some less direct benefits from being higher up the supply chain and closer to the core, but they were still outside the core and were also exploited by it.

    • Weedian [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The public paid for the colonies but the profits were privatized

      • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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        3 years ago

        i dont accept the whole fucking premise. so some goddamned ledger in some Crown Imperial Raj office says the government spent more than it collected in taxes. its such a myopic way of looking at things.

        what monetary value is complete political dominance worth? how much is millions of lives snuffed out by the colonizers? how much is the destruction of cultures and languages? generations lived in poverty and illiteracy and malnutrition?

        and people want to talk about fucing fiat currency maths from colonial administrators, gimme a fucking break :guts-rage:

  • StuporTrooper [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Historymemes is certainly not based. Was subbed until I saw too many werhaboo posts.