https://www.reddit.com/r/Judaism/comments/1b409b9/a_new_jewishmajority_region_in_rural_wyoming_or/

  • mar_k [he/him]
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    Wyoming is one of the states with the highest percentages of indigenous people so yea this checks out

  • Maoo [none/use name]
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    We've had first settler-colonial ethnostate, but what about second settler-colonial ethnostate?

      • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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        "We"

        American Leftists always transform into wannabe Stalins at Yalta whenever the topic of Israel comes up, determining the best way of how an ethnostate should have been created instead of the way it was IRL.

        • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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          Really, we’re getting mad at using a generalized “we” in a joke about Germany? Is that really an important issue here?

          To be clear, I don’t actually think we should’ve carved an Israel out of Germany either, I just think it would’ve been more appropriate than the actual creation of Israel and drawing a random red line on a map in Germany and writing “Israel” is amusing.

          • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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            Really, we’re getting mad at using a generalized “we” in a joke about Germany? Is that really an important issue here?

            Yes, I'm a party-pooper. soviet-chad

            It annoys me because it's common and the message behind it is "it's fine if the other side is morally bad enough" as well as the underlying lack of criticism to the concept of nation states. Also, it's not funny.

            • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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              Why do we need to criticize the concept of a nation state every time? If the premise is that it will happen regardless, I’m not going to waste my time on that. I would rather suggest an alternative path for the inevitable.

              it's fine if the other side is morally bad enough

              Correct

              • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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                Correct

                Moralism is cringe and a bad criteria for whether something should or should not be done.

                Why do we need to criticize the concept of a nation state every time?

                You say that because you have no problems with nationalism, as long as it's done by the people you like of course - so much for a stateless, classless society.

                Edit: My accusatory tone in the last sentence was kind of pointless. Choosing to support nationalisms around the world because of x and y reason do not mean that you support nationalism in itself, be it from we have to work with what we have/"critical support" angles or genuine approval of nationalism.

                Proletarians tending towards nationalism feel like they have a reason for it - be it because they think the world outside the borders is a threat, be it from capitalist competition hurting the local bourgeois, immigrants scary or being targeted for daring to even consider reformist politics. I see it as a bit of a pointless endeavour for communists in the west - to critical support this, critical support that. However, material aid is a different thing - libs' NGOs spread around their ideology and supporters' economic interests to all corners of the world from material aid (or promises thereof) to avalanches of propaganda. A communist organization donating to proletarian organizations in need of it (like say medical aid to Cuba) or a union blocking weapons shipment to warzones does work to build a movement, no matter how weak we are atm, without needing to compromise on one's principles or going "it's good when they do it".

  • Greenleaf [he/him]
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    "Why don't we just take over a place? Who cares if there are people living there or the historical claims of others, they don't matter enough for me to even consider their existence" is very on-brand for the Zionists.

  • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
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    Zionists: "We're not colonizers the Arabs are the real colonizers who genocided us"

    Also zionists: "Hey why don't we colonize a state in the US because there's 'uninhabited land'? "

      • D61 [any]
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        "It says right here in the Torah that King Herrod gave the Jews the land of Myntania so... yeah... why not?" isntrael

  • Self_Hating_Moid [he/him]
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    4 months ago

    this has to be some 4chan nazi does this because thsi legit just reads like one of their antisemitic wojak comics

    • Nakoichi [he/him]
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      Sadly if you look at the comments I don't think that is the case.

    • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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      If you take out the nouns it's really hard to distinguish between zionist and nazi screeds.

  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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    4 months ago

    We should give every ethno nationalist a state. As in one state for all of them. Just Madagascar plan all of these weirdos and come back 5 years later when they've all killed each other.

  • @Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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    4 months ago

    Perhaps a bit of gallows humor, but I'm imagining a Gaza Strip but everyone is a cowboy now.

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    4 months ago

    Wyoming is also very chud heavy and would probably not like the idea of a large number of Jewish people moving in

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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    Zionists say without Israel, no Jew can ever be safe. Even Biden said this on a late night show. It seems like even liberals don’t believe that Jews can ever be integrated into their society. But somehow it’s not antisemitic.