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  • BigLadKarlLiebknecht [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Ah comrade, you are mistaken - a luxury vehicle capable of having a fart noise as its horn, built by abused labor is not bougie. You see, to recall AOC’s own definition:

    I think it’s real bougie to grow up with a defined political ideology,” she adds. “You need to have college­-educated parents for that, with a political lexicon. My mother doesn’t even have an English lexicon! When people say I’m not Socialist enough, I find that very classist. It’s like, ‘What — I didn’t read enough books for you, buddy?’ ”

    …it is theory that is the mark of the bourgeoisie

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Wtf, this is honestly some of the most ignorant shit I've ever heard. Literal :cia: :fedposting: talking points from AOCIA

      Insert Angela Davis quotes about people learning how to read though theory at the Black Panthers.

      Hell, leftists groups here regularly held fanon reading groups in shacks.

      Don't confuse education with accreditation

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      You need to have college­-educated parents for that, with a political lexicon. My mother doesn’t even have an English lexicon!

      real political conversations can only be done with big English words, you see

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Also translations exist.

        Fanon's wretched of the earth for instance has been translated into many languages in colonised countries, including Swahili.

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I think it’s real bougie to grow up with a defined political ideology,” she adds. “You need to have college­-educated parents for that, with a political lexicon.

      :jesse-wtf:

      TIL Vietnamese communists were all PHD students who simply got bored and ventured into the jungles to fight for Marxism Leninism

        • Shoegazer [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          It certainly helps. All these movements and groups had some high level thinkers in their inception, but the difference is that they weren’t dumb like AOC to think uneducated people and informally educated people weren’t capable of learning and understanding.

          In fact, many of them believed that the “less educated” were able to understand communism and anti imperialism much better than the bougie academics in their own circles.

          But that was a bit different back then. The only people who could afford to be the first ones to study theory had to be well off enough to be formally educated. Nowadays everything is available online that a poor person with a phone can read several books about socialism, so the bougie academic figurehead isn’t all that necessary anymore.

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Here I am growing up the child of poor anarchist hippies and all I needed was an internet connection and an army of internet nerds to bully me into reading capital.

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        o7 o7 o7 based af for reading theory

        I am currently being bullied, and bullying others, to read third worldist theory.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Next up on my list is A History of Pan-African Revolt by C.L.R. James

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      She's right up until she then uses that argument as justification for being AGAINST learning the fucking theory that would make her more effective and benefit the working class. Fucking americans are constantly arguing against learning to their own detriment.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Nah there's definitely truth in educated families having more ability for children to receive education at an earlier age, the problem is then claiming this means you should be against education entirely. Improving education among the working class is literally one of the most important things to achieve.

          • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            I think it’s real bougie to grow up with a defined political ideology... You need to have college­-educated parents for that

            is an out of touch middle class college dipshit thing to say

    • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      But she went to a private college and studied political science/economics while there. You'd think she would have done exactly that and read books on different ideologies while studying both.

    • Questionsleep [des/pair]
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      2 years ago

      I kinda get what she's saying though. Material conditions have an impact on the information one can consume, the amount of time they have to read and think about theory, etc. There's definitely (at least on the internet) a very sizable amount of leftists who spend more time reading and are better versed in the vernacular, history, developments which is all well and good but it almost becomes a certain kind of leftist gatekeeping. If you haven't read this book, seen this lecture, understood this completely complex concept or historical development, or don't use this specific phrase or term to define yourself, you're not a real leftist apparently regardless of your perspective on the world and your lived in material conditions. As based as they were, I don't think viet Cong members spent much time arguing about theory