:lenin-shining:
Ah comrade, you are mistaken - a luxury vehicle capable of having a fart noise as its horn, built by abused labor is not bougie. You see, to recall AOC’s own definition:
I think it’s real bougie to grow up with a defined political ideology,” she adds. “You need to have college-educated parents for that, with a political lexicon. My mother doesn’t even have an English lexicon! When people say I’m not Socialist enough, I find that very classist. It’s like, ‘What — I didn’t read enough books for you, buddy?’ ”
…it is theory that is the mark of the bourgeoisie
Wtf, this is honestly some of the most ignorant shit I've ever heard. Literal :cia: :fedposting: talking points from AOCIA
Insert Angela Davis quotes about people learning how to read though theory at the Black Panthers.
Hell, leftists groups here regularly held fanon reading groups in shacks.
Don't confuse education with accreditation
You need to have college-educated parents for that, with a political lexicon. My mother doesn’t even have an English lexicon!
real political conversations can only be done with big English words, you see
Also translations exist.
Fanon's wretched of the earth for instance has been translated into many languages in colonised countries, including Swahili.
I think it’s real bougie to grow up with a defined political ideology,” she adds. “You need to have college-educated parents for that, with a political lexicon.
:jesse-wtf:
TIL Vietnamese communists were all PHD students who simply got bored and ventured into the jungles to fight for Marxism Leninism
Chinese peasants, the Black Panthers, and anti apartheid fighters, famously colledge educated.
It certainly helps. All these movements and groups had some high level thinkers in their inception, but the difference is that they weren’t dumb like AOC to think uneducated people and informally educated people weren’t capable of learning and understanding.
In fact, many of them believed that the “less educated” were able to understand communism and anti imperialism much better than the bougie academics in their own circles.
But that was a bit different back then. The only people who could afford to be the first ones to study theory had to be well off enough to be formally educated. Nowadays everything is available online that a poor person with a phone can read several books about socialism, so the bougie academic figurehead isn’t all that necessary anymore.
Here I am growing up the child of poor anarchist hippies and all I needed was an internet connection and an army of internet nerds to bully me into reading capital.
o7 o7 o7 based af for reading theory
I am currently being bullied, and bullying others, to read third worldist theory.
Next up on my list is A History of Pan-African Revolt by C.L.R. James
She's right up until she then uses that argument as justification for being AGAINST learning the fucking theory that would make her more effective and benefit the working class. Fucking americans are constantly arguing against learning to their own detriment.
Nah there's definitely truth in educated families having more ability for children to receive education at an earlier age, the problem is then claiming this means you should be against education entirely. Improving education among the working class is literally one of the most important things to achieve.
I think it’s real bougie to grow up with a defined political ideology... You need to have college-educated parents for that
is an out of touch middle class college dipshit thing to say
But she went to a private college and studied political science/economics while there. You'd think she would have done exactly that and read books on different ideologies while studying both.
I kinda get what she's saying though. Material conditions have an impact on the information one can consume, the amount of time they have to read and think about theory, etc. There's definitely (at least on the internet) a very sizable amount of leftists who spend more time reading and are better versed in the vernacular, history, developments which is all well and good but it almost becomes a certain kind of leftist gatekeeping. If you haven't read this book, seen this lecture, understood this completely complex concept or historical development, or don't use this specific phrase or term to define yourself, you're not a real leftist apparently regardless of your perspective on the world and your lived in material conditions. As based as they were, I don't think viet Cong members spent much time arguing about theory
I can be petty. Sure. But like, THIS is the thing that got you to that point? And not E V E R Y T H I N G else?
Oh everything else already did long ago, it’s just funny as fuck to see her threatening to boycott Tesla of all things
I generally like AOC, but sometimes you can really understand why she managed to get elected.
but sometimes you can really understand why she managed to get elected.
what do you mean by this
she's either a marxist who sold out, or, more likely, not really that far left to begin with, and therefore electable in this hell country
Or perhaps she is a real Marxist who knows there’s no ethical consumption in capitalism. There are no ethical car companies. They are all run by chuds, who will sooner make the car across the border to cut out the UAW.
Get rid of it so you don't die in a tesla fire or crash at uncontrollable speeds from a software glitch or so elon doesn't spy on you with tesla cameras etc
wow. I did not think AOC was a Muskrat. like, wow. that's like a bad spot.
edit: like, i think that's one of the not serious things I would lose respect for a person on.
I don't think she is. Apparently the extended range Tesla is the only EV on the market that can get from NYC to DC in one charge, and she was avoiding rail travel bc Covid.
Plugging my ears and saying 🙉🙈🙊I can't hear you. My hate of Tesla has exhausted all rational outlets
where did she get the money? wasn't she flat broke like 2 years ago when she first got elected? 🧐
Congressional starting salary is something like $150k/year. You can afford a Tesla on that
I got news for you, all car companies are shit and so are their CEOs. Musk is just a particularly vocal asshole.
I have a Model 3 myself. All of the alternatives are shittier and also, AFAIK, not union made such as the MachE which is made in Mexico. AOC should just come to terms with the fact that there is no ethical consumption in capitalism.
They're just bad, overpriced cars, that occasionally try to kill their passengers. Then you got the Elon Musk thing.
Announcing to the world that she is "considering" without having to commit to anything. :liberalism:
Fuckin' do it. :lets-fucking-go:
Big Democrat energy
She's going to assemble a nonpartisan committee to weigh the pros and cons
AOC says she's thinking of getting rid of Tesla and Elon
:sicko-wistful:
Whatever happened to those kids in cages she was so worried about? Does she even tweet about that anymore?
That photoshoot is like a weirdly distant memory that occasionally creeps into my subconscious and makes me smirk because of how ridiculous it looks.
lol she bought one? What's the situation like in the US? I know years ago there was fuck all other than Tesla for EVs outside of CA... Obviously they're just kind of stop-gap for a car-infested country and not useful if the energy supply you're using is still largely made up of burning dinosaurs, but there must be more sensible options available from automakers that don't just routinely fall apart or autopilot themselves into highway medians.
:100-com: If she absolutely has to drive a car, I have no idea why she didn’t get the lesser evil of a used hybrid, especially when NY is 85% reliant on fossil fuels for electricity.
I mean, I know why, she’s from the Keir Starmer wing of the Democratic Party, but nonetheless
What’s the situation like in the US? I know years ago there was fuck all other than Tesla for EVs outside of CA…
Without getting into too much detail I work in an industry that works closely with automakers. All of the major auto manufacturers are working on EV lines (not switching to EVs mind you, they are creating new lines of EVs to be sold alongside the classic ICE vehicles.) This is kind of crazy what with the state of supply lines atm, and we likely won't see this lines hit dealerships until 2025 (optimistic, this is according to automakers) or 2030 (pessimistic, this is according to people who provide the automakers with their machines and materials.) Tesla is basically dead in the water from what I've seen with component manufacturers and suppliers not really wanting to deal with Tesla. Maybe dead in the water is too harsh, more accurate would be "Companies are starting to see dealing with Tesla as very risky compared to alternatives."
Now this is me starting to speak out of my own ass a bit, but I think a major problem is it is too wildly profitable to build large trucks and SUVs (due to various schemes and tax incentives) that also don't exactly translate efficiently to an EV platform; and even once these major auto manufacturers get their EV lines up and running I suspect as EVs get more popular we're gonna see things get real fucky as this become something for culture warriors to sink their teeth into.
I saw a damn Rivian in a hardware store parking lot the other morning, and apparently the first EV F-150 has already been delivered to the customer. :melon-musk: 's days better be numbered
Rivians are by all accounts better cars than Teslas. But the celebrities and cultured like Teslas so his stonk will be up until public perception changes.
his stonk is not stonking too great recently, so there may be change in the winds
i mean EVs have been available for over a decade now, Tesla was just the first manufacturer to solve the range problem (while introducing the spontaneous combustion problem).
but there must be more sensible options available from automakers that don’t just routinely fall apart or autopilot themselves into highway medians.
more have come up in the past 2 years, but before that most EV sales were Tesla
Just sell it as AOC car and mention you drive barefoot.
You’ll make a good million.
:shapiro-poplar: "just sign on this dotted line, write a $1,000,000 check and it's mine??"
