Holy shit "Run for your Life" is a fucking psychopathic song lmao. Idk how to listen to it like, abstractly.

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    As it turns out, most popular British musicians are huge pieces of shit who mostly realize how easily manipulated the American public is. Another example of this is the Sex Pistols.

      • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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        Well for one they claim to be the originators of the 'punk movement'. And while you could claim that they were one of the largest popularizers, punk fashion and music styling clearly originated on the lower east side of New York from the former beatnik bands such as the Fugs, Stooges, Velvet Underground, Ramones and New York Dolls. And as claimants to the throne, they did not speak up when actual anarchist punks such as Crass were barred from the larger scene. Basically, the Sex Pistols were a band created to sell a fashion brand, Sex, which was modeled after the weird shit coming out of New York and then Johnny Rotten decided to add some anarchist lyrics to the whole thing and boom, free publicity. Of course after their admittedly influential and infamous U.S. tour in which Sid had his famous breakdowns, Johnny basically just turned to production and more or less abandoned any political pretexts. I mean at least most of the band was working class, so that was cool, but man how quickly did they stop caring.

        And that is not to mention the rabid anti-communism that they displayed. No theory whatsoever present. You can hear it in 'Holiday in the Sun' where they are seeing the sights and sounds of West Berlin and thinking how shitty it must be on the other side of the wall, without understanding that West Berlin did not operate on regular capitalist enterprise, but was basically charity for major Western corporations to operate at a loss in order to show off how much better the West was than the East. I mean, there is some level of anti-authoritarian animus, but that is all it is. If anything, the Sex Pistols set back the anarchist movement in the U.K., but hey they made alot of money, so they don't really have to care.

        Idk. They had some bangers but they are one of the most overrated bands of all time.

          • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah, that's was Sid's great fucking contributions to punk, romanticizing 'live fast, die young' which is absolute teenage horseshit and adding the swastika to punk to 'stick it to the man'. I will say that Sid probably wasn't an actual white supremacist, just incredibly stupid.

      • Kuori [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        why is every beatles fan like this? just mentally append (I think) to the beginning and let people not like this shitty band, jesus

        • CrimsonDynamo [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          You're allowed to not like them. I've said that several times. Saying they "suck" is objectively false

          • Kuori [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            you're allowed to not like them, you just have to acknowledge that they were more influential than jesus and objectively great and your opinion is dumb and wrong, that's all :shrug-outta-hecks:

      • MikeHockempalz [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        "I dislike the Beatles" vs "the Beatles are bad" is a distinction without a difference

        • CrimsonDynamo [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          It totally is a difference. You can not like them, but you can't deny their impact on the music world, recording techniques, and culture.

          They are important.

          Saying something "sucks" means that they can't play their instruments or sing well, and that's just straight up not true. Words matter.

          • MikeHockempalz [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            They're important, no doubt about that. But their songs just aren't good or impressive. They're technically competent but so is every professional musician

            • CrimsonDynamo [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Ok buddy. It's just not true but I'm not.going to argue about this.

              Your opinion isn't a fact.

              • StolenStalin [comrade/them,they/them]
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                2 years ago

                "they don't suck" is just ur opinion tho. It's not objective fact anymore than "they suck". Literally at the exact same level.

                Cancer sucks, regardless of how impactful it is. Doesn't mean it should not be studied or that no one should have interest in it.

                Or in MTG there are many cards that suck, not because of weak effects but because there is just something better to run instead. Those cards tend to shine in odd formats with one card limits or rarity limits.

                For me, the Beatles suck, non of the songs are fun to listen to for me. They are flat pop stuff, sounds like all the same shit that's been released since, which also sucks. There's so much better music for me to listen to.

                Lots of people love slop. I have slop I like , but I at least admit it's slop. I don't pretend it's gourmet just cause lots of people liked it and capital copied it over and over again.

            • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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              2 years ago

              I think for the Beatles bc of the age of their music and how much they’ve been referenced by artists they influenced looking back their stuff doesn’t seem as impressive bc we have the benefit of hind sight and we’ve heard other artists take their ideas and run with it

              Like if you consumed a bunch of high fantasy media without ever reading Tolkien and went back to it you’d be like “this shit is derivative and cliche af” lol

          • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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            They are important but this “sucks means they’re not good at music” thing is just categorically false and not the way people generally use ‘this artist/movie/whatever sucks’ when talking about art. 90% of the time when talking about an established artist and someone says they suck they mean they find their music subjectively bad

            When I say tool sucks I don’t mean Danny Carrey can’t play drums to save his life, bc obv he’s a great drummer, I mean they make cringe pseudo intellectual music for cringe pseudo intellectual people

        • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          The first is subjective while the latter is objective, or at least commonly interpreted as objective.

  • a_fanonist_hexagon [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Well the chorus is

    You better run for your life if you can, little girl.

    Hide your head in the sand little girl.

    Catch you with another man that's the end, little girl.

    • Cromalin [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      iirc paul was 18 when he wrote that, so not as bad as it could have been. not good, but not as creepy

      • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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        Yeah I alwaysassumed so especially since it’s their earlier stuff it’s just funny out of context. Really poorly aged word choice haha

  • Tofu_Lewis [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    That's why you should instead listen to the superior British Invasion band: The Kinks.

    Side note: it can be argued that The Kinks were one of the first proto-punk bands, with the dirty sound (in their early stuff) and getting banned from touring in the US for smashing their equipment on stage.

  • Cowboyitis69 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Sounds like a man battling his own inner demons. Or he was just a dick idk. Maybe it’s a little of both

  • BatCountryMusicFan [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I always felt bad for Ringo. Seems like being both the least talented and most human member of your globe-trotting supergroup is a bad gig.

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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      Credit to Ringo, they still call him "the human metronome" because he had fantastic timing. Dude probably couldn't play jazz to save his life but he was always on time. It actually took people a long time to figure out his timing because he was left handed and it took him an extra quarter or eighth of a second to swing over the left hand to strike a tom. Right handed drummers couldn't figure it out until he explained it.

      Also I still find the song "Octopus's Garden" garden to be unintentionally hilarious because the vocals are basically the way a sentient drum kit would imagine how to sing. I. Like. To. Be. Un. Der. The. Sea.